I understand it's a religious argument and that it may result in seperation of church and state, but I would like to know the legal justification.What is the LEGAL explanation for the ban on same sex marriage?
It's an arbitrary societal convention. There's no more legal justification than there was for, until relatively recently in our history, anti-miscegenation laws, which banned interracial marriage. However, the times they are a changin'.What is the LEGAL explanation for the ban on same sex marriage?
The legal explanation is because the legislature said so.
When a state legislature passes a law, they are not obligated to give any reasons. If they vote on it and it passes, it becomes law. There is no rule that says they have to give a ';legal explanation';. The fact that the law they passed is not unconstitutional is sufficient.
Good question. As a Californian who is straight (yes, they have them here), I am very happy that we are allowing gay marriage. You may have a personal problem with gays, which is fine, or it may be against your personal beliefs, again, fine. However, there is absolutely NO LEGAL BASIS for saying that gays cannot marry.
There was no legal ';ban,'; until gays started agitating for it. It's just that the definition of marriage was between persons of the opposite sex %26amp; so purported ';marriages'; between people of the same sex were no more possible than marriages between people %26amp; dogs or cats.
The legal explanation is that the law defines marriage as being between a man and a woman. It has always been that way and there is no legal or moral reason to change it.
The legal justification brings it back to religion.
There is no legal explanation.
Why do same sex people need marriage?
its not moral
Friday, July 30, 2010
Do you think your marriage would benefit from sexual discipline?
Would you like to bind your husband and drip hot candle wax on his testicles to teach him to spend more time with the family?
Would you like to handcuff your wife and spank her until she understands that you need your personal space?Do you think your marriage would benefit from sexual discipline?
That might make me misbehave on purpose, anything rough, but no damage to the jewels...Do you think your marriage would benefit from sexual discipline?
No
Problems need to be worked out with communication, not torture.
If bedroom games are to be played at all, it needs to be consensual and from a place of mutual trust and NEVER as a form of punishment.
Oh HONEY! We need to do it, come on! Lets fill the world with spawn, so much we can't breathe and watch em die cause there be no bread to eat. Humans be so greedy, I wish for infertility... FOR ALL!
Im so glad we have great communication.
Not really but it's fun to think about! LOL.
Is this before or after the breast milk????
um that sounds fun to me
no its nt true u just respect ur husband
no i like what we do now.. respect eachother
Would you like to handcuff your wife and spank her until she understands that you need your personal space?Do you think your marriage would benefit from sexual discipline?
That might make me misbehave on purpose, anything rough, but no damage to the jewels...Do you think your marriage would benefit from sexual discipline?
No
Problems need to be worked out with communication, not torture.
If bedroom games are to be played at all, it needs to be consensual and from a place of mutual trust and NEVER as a form of punishment.
Oh HONEY! We need to do it, come on! Lets fill the world with spawn, so much we can't breathe and watch em die cause there be no bread to eat. Humans be so greedy, I wish for infertility... FOR ALL!
Im so glad we have great communication.
Not really but it's fun to think about! LOL.
Is this before or after the breast milk????
um that sounds fun to me
no its nt true u just respect ur husband
no i like what we do now.. respect eachother
Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
For centuries, people had married those who had been designated by their families. The modern myth of ';romantic love'; didn't develop until the 17th century, and is an affront to the centuries of marriage tradition. Everyone knows that marriage is intended to begin not for such trivial reasons as love, but for the more important reasons of family relationships, money, and transferring property.
I think we should have a constitutional amendment banning all marriages that are not arranged by families to end this abomination that sickos call ';love';.Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
Yes, I think marriage based on 'love' can only lead to disappointment and pain. At least if it is arranged, there is no expectation of enjoyment.
michman - you are stupid. There is a reason it is called the marriage PENALTY. You pay MORE taxes as a married couple than as an individual. Secondly, in most cases both people already have insurance so there is no additional liability to allowing gay people to marry. Another straw man argument.Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
You mean modern marriages that last like 5 minutes as opposed to traditional marriages that lasted 50 years.
The reason most gays want marriage to be legal is to raid the tax benefits and add their high risk partners onto your insurance so that we may all pay higher rates for their greed and lack of Intelligent lifestyle choices.
Umm, I think maybe you just want an arranged marriage because that's probably the only way you could ever get a wife! You seem like a backwards person who only sees women as a commodity to be used and to serve you as you see fit. Arranged marriages usually benefited only men and may have worked when women had no choice about how they lived their lives and who they spent their lives with, but thank God we are not bound to living in servitude anymore. What woman would choose a life in which her fate is decided for her without her consent, as opposed to having the freedom to live as she desires? I once knew a woman who was a victim of an arranged marriage to a man three times her age (she was 14 when she married him) who kept her as little more than a child-bearing servant and who beat her severely, and who cheated on her and gave her an STD. She escaped from him with her two children and moved far away and eventually remarried and found happiness. But her family disowned her and she lost all her old social ties. Oh, and this was in the United States, too. It still goes on among some cultures. It's disgusting if you want my opinion.
I think we should have a constitutional amendment banning all marriages that are not arranged by families to end this abomination that sickos call ';love';.Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
Yes, I think marriage based on 'love' can only lead to disappointment and pain. At least if it is arranged, there is no expectation of enjoyment.
michman - you are stupid. There is a reason it is called the marriage PENALTY. You pay MORE taxes as a married couple than as an individual. Secondly, in most cases both people already have insurance so there is no additional liability to allowing gay people to marry. Another straw man argument.Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
You mean modern marriages that last like 5 minutes as opposed to traditional marriages that lasted 50 years.
The reason most gays want marriage to be legal is to raid the tax benefits and add their high risk partners onto your insurance so that we may all pay higher rates for their greed and lack of Intelligent lifestyle choices.
Umm, I think maybe you just want an arranged marriage because that's probably the only way you could ever get a wife! You seem like a backwards person who only sees women as a commodity to be used and to serve you as you see fit. Arranged marriages usually benefited only men and may have worked when women had no choice about how they lived their lives and who they spent their lives with, but thank God we are not bound to living in servitude anymore. What woman would choose a life in which her fate is decided for her without her consent, as opposed to having the freedom to live as she desires? I once knew a woman who was a victim of an arranged marriage to a man three times her age (she was 14 when she married him) who kept her as little more than a child-bearing servant and who beat her severely, and who cheated on her and gave her an STD. She escaped from him with her two children and moved far away and eventually remarried and found happiness. But her family disowned her and she lost all her old social ties. Oh, and this was in the United States, too. It still goes on among some cultures. It's disgusting if you want my opinion.
Marriage????????
Hi, I am 31 and live in India. I am planning to move to USA/ UK or any other developed country after marriage and for that I am searching for a nice match.
My question is :----- Is the marriage, which is registered under Indian Law, acceptable in UK / USA or we have to register under UK /USA Laws? What is the procedure for that, any website address?
I would like to know about the laws prevelant in USA/ UK about marriage. I live in India do I have to registered under Indian Law will it be acceptable in USA/ UK .Or we have to register under USA/ UK Laws for marriage to be authorized.Marriage????????
could be all of the above, check a search engine for marriage laws by countryMarriage????????
There is an international covenant which recognises legal (heterosexual) marriages in foreign countries as legal marriages in all other countries.
You may have to provide documentation (and pay for a translation if necessary) to prove that you were legally married elsewhere, but the validity of your marriage will not usually be open to question and you will not have to re-marry.
Some countries also recognise same-sex marriages performed legally in other countries, but not yet all.
However, you need to be aware that simply being married to a citizen of a country will not guarantee you entry to that country, or the right to stay there.
Make your own enquiries about your eligibility to enter and stay in the US or UK *before* marrying, or you could be in a for quite a shock!
Cheers :-)
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/?reques鈥?/a>
Found this for you
As far as I know, if you come to the states, you will just have to have some kind of a marriage certificate to prove that you are married.
My question is :----- Is the marriage, which is registered under Indian Law, acceptable in UK / USA or we have to register under UK /USA Laws? What is the procedure for that, any website address?
I would like to know about the laws prevelant in USA/ UK about marriage. I live in India do I have to registered under Indian Law will it be acceptable in USA/ UK .Or we have to register under USA/ UK Laws for marriage to be authorized.Marriage????????
could be all of the above, check a search engine for marriage laws by countryMarriage????????
There is an international covenant which recognises legal (heterosexual) marriages in foreign countries as legal marriages in all other countries.
You may have to provide documentation (and pay for a translation if necessary) to prove that you were legally married elsewhere, but the validity of your marriage will not usually be open to question and you will not have to re-marry.
Some countries also recognise same-sex marriages performed legally in other countries, but not yet all.
However, you need to be aware that simply being married to a citizen of a country will not guarantee you entry to that country, or the right to stay there.
Make your own enquiries about your eligibility to enter and stay in the US or UK *before* marrying, or you could be in a for quite a shock!
Cheers :-)
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/?reques鈥?/a>
Found this for you
As far as I know, if you come to the states, you will just have to have some kind of a marriage certificate to prove that you are married.
Marriage???
i have plans to go abroad for higher studies... actually freedom is the major reason y i wana move... i have lived with my folks all my life (thats normal in india) but now i wana move... but lately i got a marriage proposal n the guy lives in the same country where i wana go...everything seems good on his side... now im confused ...shud i accept the proposal or go all by myself???Marriage???
Its not very often that you come across a proposal that really seems to match your wants and wishes..But you should remember,the main reason you want to get outta here is to enjoy your freedom.As am Indian,i know what you mean,the freedom and personal space will help you develop into someone more mature,also,marriage can wait,once you are married,you will not get to spend this 'freedom' that you want.If the guy interests you,tell your parents you aren't ready for marriage as yet,but once you are in the other country you will definitely meet him and see how you like him.That way,you can keep your freedom,enjoy it,and at the same time,you wont be rejecting a potentially good-great proposal,this will also help you in knowing that guy better,since it would be foolish to accept a proposal without knowing the guy better,because no matter what you read/know about the guy,unless you meet him for real,and see whether or not you are compatible in each other's presence,you wont know if you are doing the right thing by accepting the proposal.
As for going yourself,I'd say go for it,go on your own,learn to be independent,make new friends,live and see life in a different dimension without being bound or committed to something you are not fully sure about.If possible,ask your parents if you can have the guy's contact number or email,directly talk to him and express your concerns,if he has enough of common sense and patience,he would go with you,if he acts pigheaded,you will know you made a good choice by not accepting it!Take your time girl,enjoy every moment right now,it wont come back!Good luck!Marriage???
Go by yourself. You can do it!
Don't marry a guy you don't know.
Do you love him? Enough to want to spend your life with him? Yes? Go for it. No? Go see the world and decide what you really want from life- you will find someone you really love in time.
Do you love him?
Marriage is more than a geographical relocation, it involves mind, body and spirit.
Think carefully, choose wisely.
if he allows u to do ur higher studies...then what to think...if everythng is good on his side...just marry him...
with marriage come responsibilities. being single is different you can do things at your own time, you are not answerable to anyone, but after marriage things change. you are already going through one change-moving abroad. will u be able to handle two major changes and still study? if u r really interested meet the guy and find out if he can wait or share your responsibilities if you study after marrying him.
ya. u accept the proposal. After all u being married anytime. So it is the best oppertunity for u. first u do marriage then go %26amp; continue abroad wat u want to do.
wt ur heart says ....... if ur heart says its right %26amp; this is the opertunity which was looking u %26amp; after this dicision every thig ll be ok so u should go with ur heart.........
Find out further details carefully %26amp; if all is well , get married to him.
From what you are saying it sounds like you may be considering marrying the man just because he lives where you want to move but, when you are asking the question whether you should maybe go by yourself instead it sounds like you are not ready for marriage yet. Its fine to see the man although you didn't really mention how you felt about him. My advice is not to make any decision about marriage until you are even considering it in the first place. I do think you should still go to where it is you want to go but enjoy yourself for now and worry about the guy stuff later.
Mawage, mawage is what bwings us togever today!
gir go by yourself... you need to experience life for a while an ohhh I dunno.. have some freedom, and MAYBE MAYBE find a guy you like all on your own! fun!
If he holds you back.. try to work out a comprimise.. if he can'rt listen to you.. forget him.. many more men out there.
Its not very often that you come across a proposal that really seems to match your wants and wishes..But you should remember,the main reason you want to get outta here is to enjoy your freedom.As am Indian,i know what you mean,the freedom and personal space will help you develop into someone more mature,also,marriage can wait,once you are married,you will not get to spend this 'freedom' that you want.If the guy interests you,tell your parents you aren't ready for marriage as yet,but once you are in the other country you will definitely meet him and see how you like him.That way,you can keep your freedom,enjoy it,and at the same time,you wont be rejecting a potentially good-great proposal,this will also help you in knowing that guy better,since it would be foolish to accept a proposal without knowing the guy better,because no matter what you read/know about the guy,unless you meet him for real,and see whether or not you are compatible in each other's presence,you wont know if you are doing the right thing by accepting the proposal.
As for going yourself,I'd say go for it,go on your own,learn to be independent,make new friends,live and see life in a different dimension without being bound or committed to something you are not fully sure about.If possible,ask your parents if you can have the guy's contact number or email,directly talk to him and express your concerns,if he has enough of common sense and patience,he would go with you,if he acts pigheaded,you will know you made a good choice by not accepting it!Take your time girl,enjoy every moment right now,it wont come back!Good luck!Marriage???
Go by yourself. You can do it!
Don't marry a guy you don't know.
Do you love him? Enough to want to spend your life with him? Yes? Go for it. No? Go see the world and decide what you really want from life- you will find someone you really love in time.
Do you love him?
Marriage is more than a geographical relocation, it involves mind, body and spirit.
Think carefully, choose wisely.
if he allows u to do ur higher studies...then what to think...if everythng is good on his side...just marry him...
with marriage come responsibilities. being single is different you can do things at your own time, you are not answerable to anyone, but after marriage things change. you are already going through one change-moving abroad. will u be able to handle two major changes and still study? if u r really interested meet the guy and find out if he can wait or share your responsibilities if you study after marrying him.
ya. u accept the proposal. After all u being married anytime. So it is the best oppertunity for u. first u do marriage then go %26amp; continue abroad wat u want to do.
wt ur heart says ....... if ur heart says its right %26amp; this is the opertunity which was looking u %26amp; after this dicision every thig ll be ok so u should go with ur heart.........
Find out further details carefully %26amp; if all is well , get married to him.
From what you are saying it sounds like you may be considering marrying the man just because he lives where you want to move but, when you are asking the question whether you should maybe go by yourself instead it sounds like you are not ready for marriage yet. Its fine to see the man although you didn't really mention how you felt about him. My advice is not to make any decision about marriage until you are even considering it in the first place. I do think you should still go to where it is you want to go but enjoy yourself for now and worry about the guy stuff later.
Mawage, mawage is what bwings us togever today!
gir go by yourself... you need to experience life for a while an ohhh I dunno.. have some freedom, and MAYBE MAYBE find a guy you like all on your own! fun!
If he holds you back.. try to work out a comprimise.. if he can'rt listen to you.. forget him.. many more men out there.
Marriage??
Marriage (Part I)
Typical macho man married typical good-looking lady, and after the wedding, he laid down the following rules:
';I'll be home when I want, if I want and at what time I want -- and I don't expect any hassle from you. I expect a great dinner to be on the table unless I tell you that I won't be home for dinner. I'll go hunting, fishing, boozing, and card-playing when I want with my old buddies, and don't you give me a hard time about it. Those are my rules. Any comments?';
His new bride said:
';No, that's fine with me. Just understand that there will be sex here at seven o'clock every night... whether you're here or not.';
(DARN SHE'S GOOD!)Marriage??
Loved those jokes. Thanks. :) Have a star.Marriage??
You're welcome. :) Lots more where that came from so keep the jokes coming. ;)
Ha Ha! Funny! 10!
i like 1st one.star for u.
hey, that was naughty!!
( you asked for it!!)makeup
Typical macho man married typical good-looking lady, and after the wedding, he laid down the following rules:
';I'll be home when I want, if I want and at what time I want -- and I don't expect any hassle from you. I expect a great dinner to be on the table unless I tell you that I won't be home for dinner. I'll go hunting, fishing, boozing, and card-playing when I want with my old buddies, and don't you give me a hard time about it. Those are my rules. Any comments?';
His new bride said:
';No, that's fine with me. Just understand that there will be sex here at seven o'clock every night... whether you're here or not.';
(DARN SHE'S GOOD!)Marriage??
Loved those jokes. Thanks. :) Have a star.Marriage??
You're welcome. :) Lots more where that came from so keep the jokes coming. ;)
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Ha Ha! Funny! 10!
i like 1st one.star for u.
hey, that was naughty!!
( you asked for it!!)
Marriage ...?
1. Two times a week, we go to a nice restaurant, have a little beverage, good food and companionship. She goes on Tuesdays, I go on Fridays.
2. We also sleep in separate beds. Hers is in California and mine is in Texas.
3. I take my wife everywhere.....but she keeps finding her way back
4. I asked my wife where she wanted to go for our anniversary ';Somewhere I haven't been in a long time!'; she said. So I suggested the kitchen.
5. We always hold hands. If I let go, she shops.
6. She has an electric blender, electric toaster and electric bread maker. She said ';There are too many gadgets and no place to sit down!'; So I bought her an electric chair.
7. My wife told me the car wasn't running well because there was water in the carburetor. I asked where the car was; she told me ';In the lake.';
8. She got a mud pack and looked great for two days. Then the mud fell off.Marriage ...?
Ah...Where is this wonderful woman?Single boys, come on....
Hhahaha...Farah congratualtions,very nice you make my day happy, always original and wonderful my friend...Marriage ...?
Its so trueeee haha
Ha Ha! Funny! 10!
I love them wish I could give you more stars but 15/10 you got an A+
nice
hahaha funny , but not that real , or are they ?
2. We also sleep in separate beds. Hers is in California and mine is in Texas.
3. I take my wife everywhere.....but she keeps finding her way back
4. I asked my wife where she wanted to go for our anniversary ';Somewhere I haven't been in a long time!'; she said. So I suggested the kitchen.
5. We always hold hands. If I let go, she shops.
6. She has an electric blender, electric toaster and electric bread maker. She said ';There are too many gadgets and no place to sit down!'; So I bought her an electric chair.
7. My wife told me the car wasn't running well because there was water in the carburetor. I asked where the car was; she told me ';In the lake.';
8. She got a mud pack and looked great for two days. Then the mud fell off.Marriage ...?
Ah...Where is this wonderful woman?Single boys, come on....
Hhahaha...Farah congratualtions,very nice you make my day happy, always original and wonderful my friend...Marriage ...?
Its so trueeee haha
Ha Ha! Funny! 10!
I love them wish I could give you more stars but 15/10 you got an A+
nice
hahaha funny , but not that real , or are they ?
Marriage?????
hi im am 18 and i want to be married evryone says im stupid but ive wanted this since like 8th grade!! my moms tried evrything to discouage me from thinking about this she says im too young but 3 of my friends are married and i see, maybe what i wan't to see but i see love and commitment and i want that so bad!!! i may be stupid but i really want this what do you think?Marriage?????
Wait...... Wait......... Wait.........You have entire life to find the right guy for you and at this age you haven't experienced life at all.
Find out who you are before jumping into anything. Make some goals and live life before you do anything stupid like getting married at an age before you even know what love truly is yet.
All in all WAIT!!!!Marriage?????
Have you thought about happens after you get married?
Nothing really changes. You should be just as emotionally and physically committed to your boyfriend as you are now and after you get married. Your love for each other does not just get better.
How long have you been with your boyfriend?
I have seen people get married after dating each other for several months....some stick together and while others get in divorce (which is pretty much hell). Make sure you really are ready to be with him for the rest of your life and he is ready to do the same for you...which leads to my next question...
Have you lived with your boyfriend yet?
You never know a person until you live with them and learn their home habits...
These are some of many quesions you should ask yourself. My opinion is that you should wait. There so many things out there in the world that you can possibly experience or do where a marriage might hinder you from doing so. Whatever the decision you choose, make sure u now the consequences. Good Luck!
it is everylittle girls dream to get maried but i wouldnt do it. not at that age, take your time. life is too good to want to grow up that quick.
WHY do you want to be married? What is it about marriage that makes you want it so much?
It's normal to want to marry at some point, but not to obsess about it.
Also the love %26amp; committment you can give someone at 18 pales in comparison to what you can offer as you become older and more mature. You can also GET love and committment from friends, family even a boyfriend without being married.
You are not stupid. You are young. There is a void in your life that you think marriage can fill. It doesn't work that way. Marriage can be wonderful. A good marriage can add happiness to an already happy person, but it can't make you happy.
Just because you are 18 doesn't mean that getting married now will end in divorce. The problem lies in that most 18 year olds have not had life experiences necessary to keep a marriage successful. The reality of what marriage is often times different from what we imagined it to be. Your mom speaks from her own experiences in life when she is telling you to wait. She probably wants you to go to college, get a job that you like, and once you are much more stable the commitment to marriage will be easier.
you are too young to get married. you need to wait a little time. there are lots of things that are waiting for you out there. and you can still see and have love with your family and friends. and you can have commitment with the things that you are good at or in school.
Go for it my hubby and I were married when I was 18. We have been married for 6 years now and are still in love and happy.
You might be or think you are ready but the 17 to 25 year old boys you find are not. They will promise you the world but they only want one thing and they will get tiered soon and cheat on you. You will be miserable for the rest of tour life. Please wait and don't jump into anything. Berry yourself into school it will help you support you self when the husband leaves you or you leave him (hope it never happens) but you will be prepared and not depended on someone.
Wait...... Wait......... Wait.........You have entire life to find the right guy for you and at this age you haven't experienced life at all.
Find out who you are before jumping into anything. Make some goals and live life before you do anything stupid like getting married at an age before you even know what love truly is yet.
All in all WAIT!!!!Marriage?????
Have you thought about happens after you get married?
Nothing really changes. You should be just as emotionally and physically committed to your boyfriend as you are now and after you get married. Your love for each other does not just get better.
How long have you been with your boyfriend?
I have seen people get married after dating each other for several months....some stick together and while others get in divorce (which is pretty much hell). Make sure you really are ready to be with him for the rest of your life and he is ready to do the same for you...which leads to my next question...
Have you lived with your boyfriend yet?
You never know a person until you live with them and learn their home habits...
These are some of many quesions you should ask yourself. My opinion is that you should wait. There so many things out there in the world that you can possibly experience or do where a marriage might hinder you from doing so. Whatever the decision you choose, make sure u now the consequences. Good Luck!
it is everylittle girls dream to get maried but i wouldnt do it. not at that age, take your time. life is too good to want to grow up that quick.
WHY do you want to be married? What is it about marriage that makes you want it so much?
It's normal to want to marry at some point, but not to obsess about it.
Also the love %26amp; committment you can give someone at 18 pales in comparison to what you can offer as you become older and more mature. You can also GET love and committment from friends, family even a boyfriend without being married.
You are not stupid. You are young. There is a void in your life that you think marriage can fill. It doesn't work that way. Marriage can be wonderful. A good marriage can add happiness to an already happy person, but it can't make you happy.
Just because you are 18 doesn't mean that getting married now will end in divorce. The problem lies in that most 18 year olds have not had life experiences necessary to keep a marriage successful. The reality of what marriage is often times different from what we imagined it to be. Your mom speaks from her own experiences in life when she is telling you to wait. She probably wants you to go to college, get a job that you like, and once you are much more stable the commitment to marriage will be easier.
you are too young to get married. you need to wait a little time. there are lots of things that are waiting for you out there. and you can still see and have love with your family and friends. and you can have commitment with the things that you are good at or in school.
Go for it my hubby and I were married when I was 18. We have been married for 6 years now and are still in love and happy.
You might be or think you are ready but the 17 to 25 year old boys you find are not. They will promise you the world but they only want one thing and they will get tiered soon and cheat on you. You will be miserable for the rest of tour life. Please wait and don't jump into anything. Berry yourself into school it will help you support you self when the husband leaves you or you leave him (hope it never happens) but you will be prepared and not depended on someone.
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Okay ladies, I'm not trying to offend anyone here but what is the big deal about getting married before you get pregnant? Don't get me wrong- my boyfriend and I have been together almost 5 years and we defiantly plan on getting married.. but wouldn't care if we got pregnant first. I understand the religious aspect of it... I am fairly religious (I believe in God, but don't follow the bible) but what about those of us who aren't? What about couples who do not believe that marriage is necessary if they're union is already strong enough? Seriously, in this day and age with divorce rates SO high... I just feel like bashing someone for having a baby out of wedlock is... pointless. If you love each other does it REALLY matter?
I'm just aggravated- I went to the docs today for a follow up from my miscarriage and when the doctor gave me a weird look after I told her we'd be trying to have a baby in the next couple months after she asked if I was married and I said no... I wanted to punch herMarriage...?
Because without the marriage vows the commitment is not there. Like it or not.
With the matrimony of marriage you commit yourself to each other and the children you plan to bring into the relationship. Without it there is no commitment for either of you to hold onto.
Call it old fashioned if you will but in the eyes of God it means a lot to make a vow to each other in marriage, for you, for your partner and for the children you plan to have.
While you may not see marriage as permanent, with the commitment you entrust yourself to work on the marriage. It does not work just because you say it will. You have to work at it everyday.
Consider your child. This child deserves a mother and a father in the eyes of God. Not a boyfriend and girlfriend.
Life is what you make it, you can make it good or bad, your choice. But if you plan to have children they deserve more than your stubborn ways.Marriage...?
you do what ever makes you happy.
tell that doctor too kiss your a..
i had my son before i got married and I'm not one bit sorry for it.
i married his father 6 yrs later.
There's no point in taking it personally. Each person has their own sets of values and they aren't always very open-minded when people differ from their own ideas. It would be the same if you were a white girl dating a black guy... some people have a problem with that. Or if you were a gay couple trying to have a baby... some people have a problem with that, too.
I agree with you. What's the big freaking deal? I don't see it. I am very open-minded. I say, do whatever is right for YOU, not everybody else. Who cares if people give you goofy looks? They'd give you a goofy look if you chose to wear a pink skirt with an orange polka dotted blouse, too! Or if you dyed your hair purple. Everybody has their own ideas of what is acceptable.
You can't control other peoples perceptions. Do what makes you happy!
Like it or not marriage isn't permanent. We like to think it is...but it isn't. If your not ready to commit to something impermanent (IE - marriage) what exactly makes you ready to commit to something permanent (IE - Parenthood)?
go to a different doctor, doctors should not judge...its ur body ur decision. Who cares. People are going to be judging anyways just be happy with what u do and ur beliefs!
I completely agree with you. If you are in love and committed then the marriage ceremony its self all it does is change your title and give you a piece of paper. I also recently lost a baby and a person I barely know kept telling me I am going to hell for sinning and conceiving that child. A friend of mine is from europe and her parents have been together for 30 years and she is 22 years old but they didn't get married until she was ten and that was only to move to america. And they are more committed then anyone else I have ever sseen and for over half of their relationship they werent married.
Dude my fiance and I are the same way. We've been together forever and we already consider ourselves married. We are both curch goers and out pastor says that we are married in God's eyes but the actual ceremony is important to Him. Something like that anyway. We plan on getting married, just not in a rush and if a kid comes along, what's the big deal??? It's not like you aren't really married in your hearts already!!!!!!!
I agree with u on this.. It's true what's the point in getting married and losing the whole relationship when two people are just as happy as a married couple already and as far as the pregnancy part as long as the child will get all the love and all his needs are fulfilled than it's not a problem...
I think it's totally up to you and screw everyone else. The people are judging you because they feel it is their job to do so when it's not their job and not their business.
I've been happily unmarried for 12 years now.
I think it's more of a question of commitment these days than religion. If you are going to have a child together, get married, make a home kinda thing. Having a child is a much bigger commitment than getting married. Maybe that's why people looked at you funny.
You are gonna find people like that everywhere... I smoke ciggarettes... I took my daughter to the doctor's office and the doctor (old woman) came in and she was like ';Oh my God! Do you SMOKE??! I can smell it on you!'; and of course I was like yup, sure do... she said well don't you ever smoke around your baby... I gave her a dirty look and said excuse me?? Then she continued to tell me that I shouldn't smoke around her if we cared for her at all and how bad it was and finally I had to interrupt her annoying lecture and told her that I didn't need a preacher and she needed to back out of my personal life and do her job... she looked at me like she was in shock that I would talk to her like that. She shut her mouth tho.
I believe in God too... and--the sex before marriage thing (and smoking for that matter) and all that BUT like you I don't follow it either, even tho I understand the point. I'm not ready to be a ';Christian'; and follow every rule, even the ones I agree with. I have a daughter who was born out of wed lock and I am not with her daddy either. I have had a lot of comments about it... especially when I tell people that my boyfriend isn't her biological dad.
Don't worry bout nobody but you, your boyfriend, and the baby you are trying to conceive. No one else matters.
Baby girl, a baby wont make a marriage work or not work, their are people who get married and as soon as the baby comes they get a divorce and there are some who have a baby thinking they will get married and it never happens. Both a baby and a marriage take up a lot of time and a lot of work. So if neither one of you are ready leave it alone, I am a Christian woman and i probably should not say this but you are you and no one can live your life for you. You know what the bible says and its your choice if you want to follow it or not. We all have to answer for what we do on earth one day and if you feel like having a baby out of wedlock then you know that you will have to answer God for that if its right or wrong for every body else we don't have a Heaven or Hell to put you in so dont worry about any body else and what they think because we all have fallen short of Gods glory in one way or another.
IN SOME STATES YOU ARE ALREADY MARRIED IT IS CALLED COMMON LAW ,SO IF YOU WONTED GET MARRIED TO SOME ONE ELSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET DIVORCED
I am not a lady, but maybe I can help answer your question.
Our society is 70 some percent christian. Most, if not all christian churches hold to the teaching that a child born out of wedlock is considered a bastard child. This is not seen as a good thing... so most people wonder why you would want to have a child with someone that you are not willing to marry? I have a sister who had a child with her first husband after her second husband had died. They live together and are considered married by the state by common law because they have been together for more than 7 years under the same roof, but they never wanted to get re-married. She was 42 when she had my niece. My parents had a hard time with it at first, but the rest of us didn't think to much about it one way or the other. I am sure that God doesn't care as long as you are committed to each other for life and are not insincere in your committment. The priest, judge, or minister is just a witness to your marriage anyways... it's god's blessing that is desired in matrimony anyways... if you are committed in your hearts, god will know and I am sure he will give you that same sacrimental blessing even if you don't get married in the church. The stigmatism of the different name than your dad or mom as the case may be is still out there though, and parents should give a little consideration to what their kids will have to endure because of their lack of ability to step up to the plate and accept the normal practices of our society and just go along! Why is that such a big deal to do anyway?
dont need papers or a ring to let us know who we want to spend our life with an for those who look at us diff. well they can cram it i wouldnt want to marry just because i got pregnant we had our kids first but it changed when we said i do was most happy before now hate marriage with a passion but think the world of him i think if you dont want to get married before please do not it could ruin everything seems it did for us
I think most people, including myself, think that if you can't commit to marriage with the person whom you're having a baby with, are you guys really committed to staying together. Lots of people raise kids in a single parent household and the kids end up just fine but of course it's better if it's a two parent household. To each his own though. Just because I think people should be married before having kids doesn't mean that it wont work out fine for people who aren't married, it's really just a person's personal beliefs.
wow .....thats alot to handle and i dont think it really matters no matter if ya are married or not like ya said the deviorse rate is high.... plus its not like pple havent had babies without marriage before and its not like single parent hood is uncommon and who cares if pple think its not godly before marriage thats there oppion on it and well thats not there problem or desison at all... any way good luck with having a baby and srry u didnt get to punch the doctor or who ever it was ..... lol
The biggest downfall for having a child out of wedlock is the surname in my opinion. Whose surname will you use? Then will you call the child a double barrelled name when married? To be honest though it doesn't really matter if you, your partner and child are happy
Franky, I don't care what people do. As long as you can take of the kid, you go ahead and have as many kids out of ';wedlock'; as you want. It's really no skin off my back (I'm not religious, and I don't care).
But, I just think it's funny when you all claim your relationship is so ';strong'; that you don't need to be married. If it were so strong, wouldn't you not be afraid to get married at all? I sure as hell know I wouldn't share half my chromosomes with someone if I'm not willing to sign a piece of paper. You can get divorced. You can't give back kids you make with someone you might end up easily breaking up with 5 years down the line.
Keep in mind though, this is just me we are talking about. I'd just rather commit to a marriage I can get out of before I commit to kids I can't. You do whatever you want to though. Good luck.
I see your point about people having children who are in stable relationships but not married. The problem is when the couple is not stable. It is selfish to bring an innocent baby into a situation where the child may end up without a mom/dad in their lives every day (if the couple splits, or have an on/off relationship). With that being said, many married couples are not stable enough to be parents either %26amp; many marriages with kids involved will end in divorce. But I think when the couple is married they are sort of proving that they have every intention of staying together %26amp; creating a stable, safe environment for a child to grow up in without a lot of turmoil causing problems in their kids' lives. Also in the case with unwed couples, many times it is unplanned pregnancy. At least going into marriage *most people* discuss children %26amp; how they would be raised, etc.
Let me ask you this: If you really love each other, then why not get married? If your love for one another is so strong, what are you waiting for? Marriage is a sign of your commitment to one another.
If you plan to stay together for the rest of your lives, then what are you waiting for... get married!!! If you are having doubts, or don't want to get married because divorce rates are really high, and you think you might one day want to get a divorce, then don't have kids!!! Divorce is not an option. With child raising, kids need the security of knowing their parents will always be there for them.. TOGETHER.
So, I say, do it! Get married and try for another baby :) Best of wishes to you!
Money. Marriage gets you Alimony. Otherwise all you get is child support.
Wedding or no wedding, that's entirely up to you. Vows to stay together, forever in good times and bad times, to be loyal, supportive and loving, PRIOR to having a baby? ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL! If you are still ascertaining whether the relationship is strong enough to last and not end in divorce, why are you contemplating a child? Be sure, make a commitment, (formal or informal) then try for children. Unfortunately some people see marriage as the only form of commitment. Try a little tolerance.
I'm just aggravated- I went to the docs today for a follow up from my miscarriage and when the doctor gave me a weird look after I told her we'd be trying to have a baby in the next couple months after she asked if I was married and I said no... I wanted to punch herMarriage...?
Because without the marriage vows the commitment is not there. Like it or not.
With the matrimony of marriage you commit yourself to each other and the children you plan to bring into the relationship. Without it there is no commitment for either of you to hold onto.
Call it old fashioned if you will but in the eyes of God it means a lot to make a vow to each other in marriage, for you, for your partner and for the children you plan to have.
While you may not see marriage as permanent, with the commitment you entrust yourself to work on the marriage. It does not work just because you say it will. You have to work at it everyday.
Consider your child. This child deserves a mother and a father in the eyes of God. Not a boyfriend and girlfriend.
Life is what you make it, you can make it good or bad, your choice. But if you plan to have children they deserve more than your stubborn ways.Marriage...?
you do what ever makes you happy.
tell that doctor too kiss your a..
i had my son before i got married and I'm not one bit sorry for it.
i married his father 6 yrs later.
There's no point in taking it personally. Each person has their own sets of values and they aren't always very open-minded when people differ from their own ideas. It would be the same if you were a white girl dating a black guy... some people have a problem with that. Or if you were a gay couple trying to have a baby... some people have a problem with that, too.
I agree with you. What's the big freaking deal? I don't see it. I am very open-minded. I say, do whatever is right for YOU, not everybody else. Who cares if people give you goofy looks? They'd give you a goofy look if you chose to wear a pink skirt with an orange polka dotted blouse, too! Or if you dyed your hair purple. Everybody has their own ideas of what is acceptable.
You can't control other peoples perceptions. Do what makes you happy!
Like it or not marriage isn't permanent. We like to think it is...but it isn't. If your not ready to commit to something impermanent (IE - marriage) what exactly makes you ready to commit to something permanent (IE - Parenthood)?
go to a different doctor, doctors should not judge...its ur body ur decision. Who cares. People are going to be judging anyways just be happy with what u do and ur beliefs!
I completely agree with you. If you are in love and committed then the marriage ceremony its self all it does is change your title and give you a piece of paper. I also recently lost a baby and a person I barely know kept telling me I am going to hell for sinning and conceiving that child. A friend of mine is from europe and her parents have been together for 30 years and she is 22 years old but they didn't get married until she was ten and that was only to move to america. And they are more committed then anyone else I have ever sseen and for over half of their relationship they werent married.
Dude my fiance and I are the same way. We've been together forever and we already consider ourselves married. We are both curch goers and out pastor says that we are married in God's eyes but the actual ceremony is important to Him. Something like that anyway. We plan on getting married, just not in a rush and if a kid comes along, what's the big deal??? It's not like you aren't really married in your hearts already!!!!!!!
I agree with u on this.. It's true what's the point in getting married and losing the whole relationship when two people are just as happy as a married couple already and as far as the pregnancy part as long as the child will get all the love and all his needs are fulfilled than it's not a problem...
I think it's totally up to you and screw everyone else. The people are judging you because they feel it is their job to do so when it's not their job and not their business.
I've been happily unmarried for 12 years now.
I think it's more of a question of commitment these days than religion. If you are going to have a child together, get married, make a home kinda thing. Having a child is a much bigger commitment than getting married. Maybe that's why people looked at you funny.
You are gonna find people like that everywhere... I smoke ciggarettes... I took my daughter to the doctor's office and the doctor (old woman) came in and she was like ';Oh my God! Do you SMOKE??! I can smell it on you!'; and of course I was like yup, sure do... she said well don't you ever smoke around your baby... I gave her a dirty look and said excuse me?? Then she continued to tell me that I shouldn't smoke around her if we cared for her at all and how bad it was and finally I had to interrupt her annoying lecture and told her that I didn't need a preacher and she needed to back out of my personal life and do her job... she looked at me like she was in shock that I would talk to her like that. She shut her mouth tho.
I believe in God too... and--the sex before marriage thing (and smoking for that matter) and all that BUT like you I don't follow it either, even tho I understand the point. I'm not ready to be a ';Christian'; and follow every rule, even the ones I agree with. I have a daughter who was born out of wed lock and I am not with her daddy either. I have had a lot of comments about it... especially when I tell people that my boyfriend isn't her biological dad.
Don't worry bout nobody but you, your boyfriend, and the baby you are trying to conceive. No one else matters.
Baby girl, a baby wont make a marriage work or not work, their are people who get married and as soon as the baby comes they get a divorce and there are some who have a baby thinking they will get married and it never happens. Both a baby and a marriage take up a lot of time and a lot of work. So if neither one of you are ready leave it alone, I am a Christian woman and i probably should not say this but you are you and no one can live your life for you. You know what the bible says and its your choice if you want to follow it or not. We all have to answer for what we do on earth one day and if you feel like having a baby out of wedlock then you know that you will have to answer God for that if its right or wrong for every body else we don't have a Heaven or Hell to put you in so dont worry about any body else and what they think because we all have fallen short of Gods glory in one way or another.
IN SOME STATES YOU ARE ALREADY MARRIED IT IS CALLED COMMON LAW ,SO IF YOU WONTED GET MARRIED TO SOME ONE ELSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET DIVORCED
I am not a lady, but maybe I can help answer your question.
Our society is 70 some percent christian. Most, if not all christian churches hold to the teaching that a child born out of wedlock is considered a bastard child. This is not seen as a good thing... so most people wonder why you would want to have a child with someone that you are not willing to marry? I have a sister who had a child with her first husband after her second husband had died. They live together and are considered married by the state by common law because they have been together for more than 7 years under the same roof, but they never wanted to get re-married. She was 42 when she had my niece. My parents had a hard time with it at first, but the rest of us didn't think to much about it one way or the other. I am sure that God doesn't care as long as you are committed to each other for life and are not insincere in your committment. The priest, judge, or minister is just a witness to your marriage anyways... it's god's blessing that is desired in matrimony anyways... if you are committed in your hearts, god will know and I am sure he will give you that same sacrimental blessing even if you don't get married in the church. The stigmatism of the different name than your dad or mom as the case may be is still out there though, and parents should give a little consideration to what their kids will have to endure because of their lack of ability to step up to the plate and accept the normal practices of our society and just go along! Why is that such a big deal to do anyway?
dont need papers or a ring to let us know who we want to spend our life with an for those who look at us diff. well they can cram it i wouldnt want to marry just because i got pregnant we had our kids first but it changed when we said i do was most happy before now hate marriage with a passion but think the world of him i think if you dont want to get married before please do not it could ruin everything seems it did for us
I think most people, including myself, think that if you can't commit to marriage with the person whom you're having a baby with, are you guys really committed to staying together. Lots of people raise kids in a single parent household and the kids end up just fine but of course it's better if it's a two parent household. To each his own though. Just because I think people should be married before having kids doesn't mean that it wont work out fine for people who aren't married, it's really just a person's personal beliefs.
wow .....thats alot to handle and i dont think it really matters no matter if ya are married or not like ya said the deviorse rate is high.... plus its not like pple havent had babies without marriage before and its not like single parent hood is uncommon and who cares if pple think its not godly before marriage thats there oppion on it and well thats not there problem or desison at all... any way good luck with having a baby and srry u didnt get to punch the doctor or who ever it was ..... lol
The biggest downfall for having a child out of wedlock is the surname in my opinion. Whose surname will you use? Then will you call the child a double barrelled name when married? To be honest though it doesn't really matter if you, your partner and child are happy
Franky, I don't care what people do. As long as you can take of the kid, you go ahead and have as many kids out of ';wedlock'; as you want. It's really no skin off my back (I'm not religious, and I don't care).
But, I just think it's funny when you all claim your relationship is so ';strong'; that you don't need to be married. If it were so strong, wouldn't you not be afraid to get married at all? I sure as hell know I wouldn't share half my chromosomes with someone if I'm not willing to sign a piece of paper. You can get divorced. You can't give back kids you make with someone you might end up easily breaking up with 5 years down the line.
Keep in mind though, this is just me we are talking about. I'd just rather commit to a marriage I can get out of before I commit to kids I can't. You do whatever you want to though. Good luck.
I see your point about people having children who are in stable relationships but not married. The problem is when the couple is not stable. It is selfish to bring an innocent baby into a situation where the child may end up without a mom/dad in their lives every day (if the couple splits, or have an on/off relationship). With that being said, many married couples are not stable enough to be parents either %26amp; many marriages with kids involved will end in divorce. But I think when the couple is married they are sort of proving that they have every intention of staying together %26amp; creating a stable, safe environment for a child to grow up in without a lot of turmoil causing problems in their kids' lives. Also in the case with unwed couples, many times it is unplanned pregnancy. At least going into marriage *most people* discuss children %26amp; how they would be raised, etc.
Let me ask you this: If you really love each other, then why not get married? If your love for one another is so strong, what are you waiting for? Marriage is a sign of your commitment to one another.
If you plan to stay together for the rest of your lives, then what are you waiting for... get married!!! If you are having doubts, or don't want to get married because divorce rates are really high, and you think you might one day want to get a divorce, then don't have kids!!! Divorce is not an option. With child raising, kids need the security of knowing their parents will always be there for them.. TOGETHER.
So, I say, do it! Get married and try for another baby :) Best of wishes to you!
Money. Marriage gets you Alimony. Otherwise all you get is child support.
Wedding or no wedding, that's entirely up to you. Vows to stay together, forever in good times and bad times, to be loyal, supportive and loving, PRIOR to having a baby? ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL! If you are still ascertaining whether the relationship is strong enough to last and not end in divorce, why are you contemplating a child? Be sure, make a commitment, (formal or informal) then try for children. Unfortunately some people see marriage as the only form of commitment. Try a little tolerance.
Marriage??
i want to get married and i will be 19 how should i tell my parents??Marriage??
Just tell about it with the help of examples.Marriage??
Just have a conversation about it. You have to realize that telling other people and defending your decision is a part of being an adult. If you can't discuss your marriage in a mature manner, you are not ready to be married and take on this commitment and this responsibility. Marriage is not a game.
It is not the matter of how to tell them, it is showing them that you are responsible and mature enough to get married
Tell them you're going on the mtv reality show ';engaged and underage.'; They'll get the picture.
well theres no easy way but be prepared for them to try and talk you out of it
Just tell about it with the help of examples.Marriage??
Just have a conversation about it. You have to realize that telling other people and defending your decision is a part of being an adult. If you can't discuss your marriage in a mature manner, you are not ready to be married and take on this commitment and this responsibility. Marriage is not a game.
It is not the matter of how to tell them, it is showing them that you are responsible and mature enough to get married
Tell them you're going on the mtv reality show ';engaged and underage.'; They'll get the picture.
well theres no easy way but be prepared for them to try and talk you out of it
Marriage??
ladies.. i am getting married dec. 1st of this year. the colors are red and white.. my fiancee is shorter than i am.. i am 5'10 and heis 5'7.. any ideas on shoes or something.. remember that he has to take the garter off so people will see my feet.. help me out on this one.Marriage??
You could go with flats but you will still appear taller than him. Think about the dress you'll be wearing and wear shoes that will be comfortable and will accommodate your dress well. Good luck.Marriage??
The height difference doesn't really matter to you since you are marrying him so wear what ever kind you like. High heels or flats doesn't really matter. It's none of your business what other people think of your feet, you can't change them anyway. So they have to be okay and if anyone doesn't like them, they don't a have to look.
I would say buy a cute pair of comfortable shoes and forget about the height thing. You are getting married you cant camouflage the fact that your taller than your husband forever.
Just wear flats. No one will care that you aren't wearing heels. Besides, think of how comfy your feet will be if you don't wear heels. Good luck and congratulations!
2 ideas, both will be comfortable for you.
First idea; Buy a plain pair of white canvas shoes (assuming your gown is white. If it's not white, there are many shoe stores that can dye them to match). You can us a glue gun and decorate them with things that come close to matching the decor on your gown. Most craft stores have these supplies.
Second idea; Buy a pair of ';Bridal Slippers';. These are common. At some point the shoes get uncomfortable and a bride will change into bridal slippers for the rest of the day. These can also be decorated.
IMPORTANT: Keep in mind the length of your gown if you go this route. You don't want to be stepping on your gown.
Yes, flat shoes. I'm 6'1 and my husband is 5'8. We didn't do the garter thing, just because I'm not into sexy things for everyone else to see.
There are lifts that can be put in the guys shoe from the inside so you can;t tell on the outside of his shoe. You have to get it done or ask a shoe repair store or even mens wearhouse. That is what they did with tom cruise for his wedding.
Wear flats!
Make them match your dress, that's all.
Comfy and stylish!
Lucky you that they're so fashionable now.
Good luck!
My best friend that just got married got a cute pair of tennis shoes and crazy socks and it was a big kick for the garter part everyone was cracking up and she was comfortable and didn't appear to much taller
You could go with flats but you will still appear taller than him. Think about the dress you'll be wearing and wear shoes that will be comfortable and will accommodate your dress well. Good luck.Marriage??
The height difference doesn't really matter to you since you are marrying him so wear what ever kind you like. High heels or flats doesn't really matter. It's none of your business what other people think of your feet, you can't change them anyway. So they have to be okay and if anyone doesn't like them, they don't a have to look.
I would say buy a cute pair of comfortable shoes and forget about the height thing. You are getting married you cant camouflage the fact that your taller than your husband forever.
Just wear flats. No one will care that you aren't wearing heels. Besides, think of how comfy your feet will be if you don't wear heels. Good luck and congratulations!
2 ideas, both will be comfortable for you.
First idea; Buy a plain pair of white canvas shoes (assuming your gown is white. If it's not white, there are many shoe stores that can dye them to match). You can us a glue gun and decorate them with things that come close to matching the decor on your gown. Most craft stores have these supplies.
Second idea; Buy a pair of ';Bridal Slippers';. These are common. At some point the shoes get uncomfortable and a bride will change into bridal slippers for the rest of the day. These can also be decorated.
IMPORTANT: Keep in mind the length of your gown if you go this route. You don't want to be stepping on your gown.
Yes, flat shoes. I'm 6'1 and my husband is 5'8. We didn't do the garter thing, just because I'm not into sexy things for everyone else to see.
There are lifts that can be put in the guys shoe from the inside so you can;t tell on the outside of his shoe. You have to get it done or ask a shoe repair store or even mens wearhouse. That is what they did with tom cruise for his wedding.
Wear flats!
Make them match your dress, that's all.
Comfy and stylish!
Lucky you that they're so fashionable now.
Good luck!
My best friend that just got married got a cute pair of tennis shoes and crazy socks and it was a big kick for the garter part everyone was cracking up and she was comfortable and didn't appear to much taller
Marriage???
Is there a big difference between ';loving your spouse'; and ';being in love with your spouse';? If there is a difference, please explain.Marriage???
Yes--because you can start to love your husband like a brother, where you care if they live or die, you do all you can to try to make them live a good life...but you're just not attracted to him and don't think of him as a friend.
However, if you're willing to work at it, there's a way to get that ';in love'; feeling back. It will never be like it was when the two first started dating (way back in the day), and it's rough to do when there are kids involved, the house, the laundry, work, etc. But it's definitely possible.
With the exception of abuse (mental, physical, drug/alcohol), I don't think there's any problem that can't be solved in a marriage so long as both parties are more than willing to work it out.Marriage???
I'll take a shot at ';Being in love withyour spouse';
You get butterflies in your stomach when she calls or when you know your going to see her. You can't wait to listen to how her day went. You look at her like no one else around matters, when she is away for any leghth of time it feels like part of you is missing, you wonder around aimlessly and answer question on this site. Being in love is the greatest and most painful feeling in the world.
One is the action, the other the emotion.
It could be the same, it could be different. It's all up to you. For me, since it's directed to a spouse, they won't differ.
YES you can love anyone but when you are in love with them it tells them that you know who they are but you love them for all of their faults, you love them no matter what life may throw at you or your relationship ect.
Being in love is infatuation. It generally fades during the first year of marriage or living together, but sometimes it happens all over again due to the right circumstances.
Loving your spouse is more complicated than infatuation, as it involves minor and major expressions of affection, loyalty, nurturing, support, doing things together, enjoying each other's company, and even being each other's best friend. Loving spouses are responsible to each other and operate on a basis of mutual trust.
Yes they are different because in love means you actually do love him or her. But loving completely the oppsite.
what is your view of commitment at the first place?
there is a whole world of difference... :D
Yes; you can love many people but 'being in love' shows that this person is special; apart from the others
Yes--because you can start to love your husband like a brother, where you care if they live or die, you do all you can to try to make them live a good life...but you're just not attracted to him and don't think of him as a friend.
However, if you're willing to work at it, there's a way to get that ';in love'; feeling back. It will never be like it was when the two first started dating (way back in the day), and it's rough to do when there are kids involved, the house, the laundry, work, etc. But it's definitely possible.
With the exception of abuse (mental, physical, drug/alcohol), I don't think there's any problem that can't be solved in a marriage so long as both parties are more than willing to work it out.Marriage???
I'll take a shot at ';Being in love withyour spouse';
You get butterflies in your stomach when she calls or when you know your going to see her. You can't wait to listen to how her day went. You look at her like no one else around matters, when she is away for any leghth of time it feels like part of you is missing, you wonder around aimlessly and answer question on this site. Being in love is the greatest and most painful feeling in the world.
One is the action, the other the emotion.
It could be the same, it could be different. It's all up to you. For me, since it's directed to a spouse, they won't differ.
YES you can love anyone but when you are in love with them it tells them that you know who they are but you love them for all of their faults, you love them no matter what life may throw at you or your relationship ect.
Being in love is infatuation. It generally fades during the first year of marriage or living together, but sometimes it happens all over again due to the right circumstances.
Loving your spouse is more complicated than infatuation, as it involves minor and major expressions of affection, loyalty, nurturing, support, doing things together, enjoying each other's company, and even being each other's best friend. Loving spouses are responsible to each other and operate on a basis of mutual trust.
Yes they are different because in love means you actually do love him or her. But loving completely the oppsite.
what is your view of commitment at the first place?
there is a whole world of difference... :D
Yes; you can love many people but 'being in love' shows that this person is special; apart from the others
Marriage??
i want to get married and i will be 19 how should i tell my parents??Marriage??
Just tell about it with the help of examples.Marriage??
Just have a conversation about it. You have to realize that telling other people and defending your decision is a part of being an adult. If you can't discuss your marriage in a mature manner, you are not ready to be married and take on this commitment and this responsibility. Marriage is not a game.
It is not the matter of how to tell them, it is showing them that you are responsible and mature enough to get married
Tell them you're going on the mtv reality show ';engaged and underage.'; They'll get the picture.
well theres no easy way but be prepared for them to try and talk you out of it
Just tell about it with the help of examples.Marriage??
Just have a conversation about it. You have to realize that telling other people and defending your decision is a part of being an adult. If you can't discuss your marriage in a mature manner, you are not ready to be married and take on this commitment and this responsibility. Marriage is not a game.
It is not the matter of how to tell them, it is showing them that you are responsible and mature enough to get married
Tell them you're going on the mtv reality show ';engaged and underage.'; They'll get the picture.
well theres no easy way but be prepared for them to try and talk you out of it
Marriage??
ladies.. i am getting married dec. 1st of this year. the colors are red and white.. my fiancee is shorter than i am.. i am 5'10 and heis 5'7.. any ideas on shoes or something.. remember that he has to take the garter off so people will see my feet.. help me out on this one.Marriage??
You could go with flats but you will still appear taller than him. Think about the dress you'll be wearing and wear shoes that will be comfortable and will accommodate your dress well. Good luck.Marriage??
The height difference doesn't really matter to you since you are marrying him so wear what ever kind you like. High heels or flats doesn't really matter. It's none of your business what other people think of your feet, you can't change them anyway. So they have to be okay and if anyone doesn't like them, they don't a have to look.
I would say buy a cute pair of comfortable shoes and forget about the height thing. You are getting married you cant camouflage the fact that your taller than your husband forever.
Just wear flats. No one will care that you aren't wearing heels. Besides, think of how comfy your feet will be if you don't wear heels. Good luck and congratulations!
2 ideas, both will be comfortable for you.
First idea; Buy a plain pair of white canvas shoes (assuming your gown is white. If it's not white, there are many shoe stores that can dye them to match). You can us a glue gun and decorate them with things that come close to matching the decor on your gown. Most craft stores have these supplies.
Second idea; Buy a pair of ';Bridal Slippers';. These are common. At some point the shoes get uncomfortable and a bride will change into bridal slippers for the rest of the day. These can also be decorated.
IMPORTANT: Keep in mind the length of your gown if you go this route. You don't want to be stepping on your gown.
Yes, flat shoes. I'm 6'1 and my husband is 5'8. We didn't do the garter thing, just because I'm not into sexy things for everyone else to see.
There are lifts that can be put in the guys shoe from the inside so you can;t tell on the outside of his shoe. You have to get it done or ask a shoe repair store or even mens wearhouse. That is what they did with tom cruise for his wedding.
Wear flats!
Make them match your dress, that's all.
Comfy and stylish!
Lucky you that they're so fashionable now.
Good luck!
My best friend that just got married got a cute pair of tennis shoes and crazy socks and it was a big kick for the garter part everyone was cracking up and she was comfortable and didn't appear to much taller
You could go with flats but you will still appear taller than him. Think about the dress you'll be wearing and wear shoes that will be comfortable and will accommodate your dress well. Good luck.Marriage??
The height difference doesn't really matter to you since you are marrying him so wear what ever kind you like. High heels or flats doesn't really matter. It's none of your business what other people think of your feet, you can't change them anyway. So they have to be okay and if anyone doesn't like them, they don't a have to look.
I would say buy a cute pair of comfortable shoes and forget about the height thing. You are getting married you cant camouflage the fact that your taller than your husband forever.
Just wear flats. No one will care that you aren't wearing heels. Besides, think of how comfy your feet will be if you don't wear heels. Good luck and congratulations!
2 ideas, both will be comfortable for you.
First idea; Buy a plain pair of white canvas shoes (assuming your gown is white. If it's not white, there are many shoe stores that can dye them to match). You can us a glue gun and decorate them with things that come close to matching the decor on your gown. Most craft stores have these supplies.
Second idea; Buy a pair of ';Bridal Slippers';. These are common. At some point the shoes get uncomfortable and a bride will change into bridal slippers for the rest of the day. These can also be decorated.
IMPORTANT: Keep in mind the length of your gown if you go this route. You don't want to be stepping on your gown.
Yes, flat shoes. I'm 6'1 and my husband is 5'8. We didn't do the garter thing, just because I'm not into sexy things for everyone else to see.
There are lifts that can be put in the guys shoe from the inside so you can;t tell on the outside of his shoe. You have to get it done or ask a shoe repair store or even mens wearhouse. That is what they did with tom cruise for his wedding.
Wear flats!
Make them match your dress, that's all.
Comfy and stylish!
Lucky you that they're so fashionable now.
Good luck!
My best friend that just got married got a cute pair of tennis shoes and crazy socks and it was a big kick for the garter part everyone was cracking up and she was comfortable and didn't appear to much taller
Marriage???
Is there a big difference between ';loving your spouse'; and ';being in love with your spouse';? If there is a difference, please explain.Marriage???
Yes--because you can start to love your husband like a brother, where you care if they live or die, you do all you can to try to make them live a good life...but you're just not attracted to him and don't think of him as a friend.
However, if you're willing to work at it, there's a way to get that ';in love'; feeling back. It will never be like it was when the two first started dating (way back in the day), and it's rough to do when there are kids involved, the house, the laundry, work, etc. But it's definitely possible.
With the exception of abuse (mental, physical, drug/alcohol), I don't think there's any problem that can't be solved in a marriage so long as both parties are more than willing to work it out.Marriage???
I'll take a shot at ';Being in love withyour spouse';
You get butterflies in your stomach when she calls or when you know your going to see her. You can't wait to listen to how her day went. You look at her like no one else around matters, when she is away for any leghth of time it feels like part of you is missing, you wonder around aimlessly and answer question on this site. Being in love is the greatest and most painful feeling in the world.
One is the action, the other the emotion.
It could be the same, it could be different. It's all up to you. For me, since it's directed to a spouse, they won't differ.
YES you can love anyone but when you are in love with them it tells them that you know who they are but you love them for all of their faults, you love them no matter what life may throw at you or your relationship ect.
Being in love is infatuation. It generally fades during the first year of marriage or living together, but sometimes it happens all over again due to the right circumstances.
Loving your spouse is more complicated than infatuation, as it involves minor and major expressions of affection, loyalty, nurturing, support, doing things together, enjoying each other's company, and even being each other's best friend. Loving spouses are responsible to each other and operate on a basis of mutual trust.
Yes they are different because in love means you actually do love him or her. But loving completely the oppsite.
what is your view of commitment at the first place?
there is a whole world of difference... :D
Yes; you can love many people but 'being in love' shows that this person is special; apart from the others
Yes--because you can start to love your husband like a brother, where you care if they live or die, you do all you can to try to make them live a good life...but you're just not attracted to him and don't think of him as a friend.
However, if you're willing to work at it, there's a way to get that ';in love'; feeling back. It will never be like it was when the two first started dating (way back in the day), and it's rough to do when there are kids involved, the house, the laundry, work, etc. But it's definitely possible.
With the exception of abuse (mental, physical, drug/alcohol), I don't think there's any problem that can't be solved in a marriage so long as both parties are more than willing to work it out.Marriage???
I'll take a shot at ';Being in love withyour spouse';
You get butterflies in your stomach when she calls or when you know your going to see her. You can't wait to listen to how her day went. You look at her like no one else around matters, when she is away for any leghth of time it feels like part of you is missing, you wonder around aimlessly and answer question on this site. Being in love is the greatest and most painful feeling in the world.
One is the action, the other the emotion.
It could be the same, it could be different. It's all up to you. For me, since it's directed to a spouse, they won't differ.
YES you can love anyone but when you are in love with them it tells them that you know who they are but you love them for all of their faults, you love them no matter what life may throw at you or your relationship ect.
Being in love is infatuation. It generally fades during the first year of marriage or living together, but sometimes it happens all over again due to the right circumstances.
Loving your spouse is more complicated than infatuation, as it involves minor and major expressions of affection, loyalty, nurturing, support, doing things together, enjoying each other's company, and even being each other's best friend. Loving spouses are responsible to each other and operate on a basis of mutual trust.
Yes they are different because in love means you actually do love him or her. But loving completely the oppsite.
what is your view of commitment at the first place?
there is a whole world of difference... :D
Yes; you can love many people but 'being in love' shows that this person is special; apart from the others
Marriage?????
well i have been with my boyfriend for six almost seven months and he says he wants to get married. We've known eachother for about three or four years and ever since i have known him i didn't ever see him that serious with anyone. Do you think we should get married?Marriage?????
Marriage is basically a union of the hearts. And a celebration of mutual understanding. Marriage adds on 2 more dimension to your present relationship of one bf/gf. What are they ? 1. Being a spouse, a husband , a wife ? How do the two of you define that role. What is a wife ? What is a husband ? 2. Fatherhood and motherhood. How do you see your man as a father for your child, not only as a baby but right to teenage and beyond. How you see yourself as a mother ? How he see you as a mother of his child ? .....Marriage is a union for procreation not just a graduation ceremony of courtship. To survive the relationship must have mutual understanding, kindred tastes, motivations and aspirations. Not sure ? Get involved in activities that you guys have not experienced together. Get engaged first maybe. Test the relationship in myriad events and activities. Discover the latent potential. And if it survive that and the love grows stronger out of it. ...GO for it ! You found yourself a soul mate.Marriage?????
How old are you? Do you love him?
Go for it!!! He evidentally loves you and it's not like you just met him - you have known him for years!!
I think that you should wait a little bit more, maybe until its a year and then get engaged, and then maybe another 6 months later you can get married, don't rush!
baby girl, did you see his ugly personality side? everybody has one. are you both financially stable? are you both adults? do you have clear future with him? will this alter my career goal? will you be able to live with him for the rest of your life? baby girl, see, only you can answer this serious questions. once you had analyze it carefully, you'll see your answers bright as day.
If you even have to post this on Yahoo Answers then you probably shouldn't get married....from experience, if you have any doubts don't do it, take your time, you don't have to rush it, you may feel more comfortable with it on down the road....Good Luck!!!
He sounds fine. But everything's a gamble.
only if you know that you love him
Marriage is a huge step in a relationship and if you love him and you can be yourself with him and he the same with you then maybe marriage is right it all depends I was in a marriage for 15 years and I stayed for my children and not for love but after I got a divorce I found a man who makes me happy. Don't take it lightly it is hard to get out of a marriage without hassle.
That's your decision and only you would know the answer to that question. What does your gut feeling say and what or are there any other leading factors that say wait on this call.
Nobody should answer that but yourself, if you feel emotionally and mentally prepared for marriage and he seems like the ';one'; then so it but if you don't do not hurt yourself and him!!!makeup
Marriage is basically a union of the hearts. And a celebration of mutual understanding. Marriage adds on 2 more dimension to your present relationship of one bf/gf. What are they ? 1. Being a spouse, a husband , a wife ? How do the two of you define that role. What is a wife ? What is a husband ? 2. Fatherhood and motherhood. How do you see your man as a father for your child, not only as a baby but right to teenage and beyond. How you see yourself as a mother ? How he see you as a mother of his child ? .....Marriage is a union for procreation not just a graduation ceremony of courtship. To survive the relationship must have mutual understanding, kindred tastes, motivations and aspirations. Not sure ? Get involved in activities that you guys have not experienced together. Get engaged first maybe. Test the relationship in myriad events and activities. Discover the latent potential. And if it survive that and the love grows stronger out of it. ...GO for it ! You found yourself a soul mate.Marriage?????
How old are you? Do you love him?
Go for it!!! He evidentally loves you and it's not like you just met him - you have known him for years!!
I think that you should wait a little bit more, maybe until its a year and then get engaged, and then maybe another 6 months later you can get married, don't rush!
baby girl, did you see his ugly personality side? everybody has one. are you both financially stable? are you both adults? do you have clear future with him? will this alter my career goal? will you be able to live with him for the rest of your life? baby girl, see, only you can answer this serious questions. once you had analyze it carefully, you'll see your answers bright as day.
If you even have to post this on Yahoo Answers then you probably shouldn't get married....from experience, if you have any doubts don't do it, take your time, you don't have to rush it, you may feel more comfortable with it on down the road....Good Luck!!!
He sounds fine. But everything's a gamble.
only if you know that you love him
Marriage is a huge step in a relationship and if you love him and you can be yourself with him and he the same with you then maybe marriage is right it all depends I was in a marriage for 15 years and I stayed for my children and not for love but after I got a divorce I found a man who makes me happy. Don't take it lightly it is hard to get out of a marriage without hassle.
That's your decision and only you would know the answer to that question. What does your gut feeling say and what or are there any other leading factors that say wait on this call.
Nobody should answer that but yourself, if you feel emotionally and mentally prepared for marriage and he seems like the ';one'; then so it but if you don't do not hurt yourself and him!!!
Marriage...?
Why do the people your in a relationship with push marriage? Why not just stay bf/gf or gf/gf?
Marriage seems like leasing a car!Marriage...?
Maybe because you are showing your boobies to everyone that is on the internet and your man wants to know that you are with him NOT all the other men on the internet!!!!!!!Marriage...?
';it is just to easy for him to walk away with my dignity. . .';. AHA HA HA! Yeah, marriage prevents that from happening always. Anyone who would do something like that wouldn't be stopped by marriage anyways. PLEASE! A commitment comes from people, not the state of marriage!!!
They have their feelings and you have your own. Some like what they have and want it that way all the time. Marriage is what you make of it. Good luck.
It is usually for the legality of the situation. Marriage is a contract of sorts between a man and a woman to LOVE, HONOR AND CHERISH each other as long as you both shall live. You can state a verbal contract to each other, but that does not mean the law would have to see that as a contract. A marriage certificate is something the law must acknowledge. LEGALITY.
they do not want to be alone and i know i pushed it and then i thought why i wanted to be with my husband and he loves me and i know he loves me. being bf/gf you can do what ever you want but when you are married u have someone with you at all times by your side you kno wthat person better then when you are dating.
who cares, your HOT want a great pic!
lol
Every person in life some day need company......and for that he or she need partner........and marriage provides.....that...
Marriage is really for financial purposes.
Would you like to be my girlfriend? What about my sweetheart?
its a nice car to lease..belheive me... the sex, companionship and fun u get is crazy... it has to graduate from a bf/bf, gf/gf, gf/bf situation. its like giving a recognition to what u belheive in..
We attempt to secure that which is not securable. We do it for ourselves and our children. Many would argue that just because something is not possible does not mean it should not be attempted. There may be a breakthrough any day now...
marriage is a social bondage where people get legallity to be with one another. marriage is the successful result of love.
marriage is there no matter wat
It all depends on who you are with. If two people do not agree on the future goals of the relationship, then they may want to reconsider being together at all.
Maybe try:
http://dating.about.com/od/justforthegal鈥?/a>
I guess you wont feel like you desire to make a commitment to that person until you find them, and when you do the feeling is overwhelming to have them in your life as close as you can, and marriage is a representation of your desire to be with someone.
Well I think its matter of opinion and situation. If things are not really going anywhere major I see no point in it but if your having a baby and you both are in massive love with each other then I think its only right for marriage.
it can be scary and it could be the greatest thing that ever happend to you.
ya thery should enjoy friendship first,but then they think that geting married is gonna change things
You are so right. You sound like my type of girl, whats up?
people have differnent mentalities
practically if u cant accept them , dump them
Some people still value morality!
Some people push marriage for religious reasons. Some people push marriage because they want to know and feel like the other person is committed to making the relationship work. Because there are other things at stake in a divorce (i.e. splitting up the children, trying to figure out alimony, etc.) some people are more likely to try to make the relationship work. I, for one, would not just consent to being someone's girlfriend forever because it is just too easy for him to pick up and walk away with my dignity, my heart, and possibly my kids. I deserve better than that and so does everyone else.
If I had you for a girlfriend that looked like you, I would want marriage too, so I could invest my whole life savings and trust to go with not only your looks but into making you shine brighter than the stars I see on TV now days. GRRRR baby you are very beautiful and Marriage isn't an optional allusion. but a dream to any Man that would be in your life come true. I would buy every sorrow thought from all your hurts and p[ains to give you the happness you truely do deserve. I hope the man that you meet can do better than that when he offers you his hand in marriage too. good luck !!
Because those who push think it's the 'right' thing to do....
OR they feel that's the only way to OWN another.
Or.......for the false security, which in fact creates the exact opposite.....in my humble opinion.
putting a commit down on paper and religious reasons.
why don't you ask your mommy and daddy
It works for me. There is no sense in jumping into that kind of relationship until you are really sure that is what you want.
I believe that marriage accounts for that extra ounce of commitment that says ';I will always be faithful to you and you alone.'; But then again, I'm kinda old skool, so what do I know. lol.
I am not married, never was and never will be. I do not accept the authority of a church, priest, state or public official over my very own private life. It is none of their business to tell me with whom I can live or sleep, or to ';pronounce someone husband and wife';. This really sucks, and a lot of the problems we have in the West is due to our stupid social order that puts formality above love and care.
I have a lovely and beautiful life partner. We are both Pagans - she is a Wiccan and I am a Druid - and we have sealed our life bond with a handfasting ceremony in front of a tree and a few of our friends. That makes sense and we are both very happy.
And by the way, have you ever noticed that most people change their personality as soon as they are officially married? That says a lot about it.
Wow, Ms Noelani your hot looking! What was your question again?
Like leasing a car? What marriages have you observed, lady?
because they love you so much that they feel like if they don't get married now they never will and then it ends in disaster then they are hurt
Yeah, but it's a ******' SWEET car...
I dont really know people who push want to marry you to have s ex with you.
Marriage seems like leasing a car!Marriage...?
Maybe because you are showing your boobies to everyone that is on the internet and your man wants to know that you are with him NOT all the other men on the internet!!!!!!!Marriage...?
';it is just to easy for him to walk away with my dignity. . .';. AHA HA HA! Yeah, marriage prevents that from happening always. Anyone who would do something like that wouldn't be stopped by marriage anyways. PLEASE! A commitment comes from people, not the state of marriage!!!
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They have their feelings and you have your own. Some like what they have and want it that way all the time. Marriage is what you make of it. Good luck.
It is usually for the legality of the situation. Marriage is a contract of sorts between a man and a woman to LOVE, HONOR AND CHERISH each other as long as you both shall live. You can state a verbal contract to each other, but that does not mean the law would have to see that as a contract. A marriage certificate is something the law must acknowledge. LEGALITY.
they do not want to be alone and i know i pushed it and then i thought why i wanted to be with my husband and he loves me and i know he loves me. being bf/gf you can do what ever you want but when you are married u have someone with you at all times by your side you kno wthat person better then when you are dating.
who cares, your HOT want a great pic!
lol
Every person in life some day need company......and for that he or she need partner........and marriage provides.....that...
Marriage is really for financial purposes.
Would you like to be my girlfriend? What about my sweetheart?
its a nice car to lease..belheive me... the sex, companionship and fun u get is crazy... it has to graduate from a bf/bf, gf/gf, gf/bf situation. its like giving a recognition to what u belheive in..
We attempt to secure that which is not securable. We do it for ourselves and our children. Many would argue that just because something is not possible does not mean it should not be attempted. There may be a breakthrough any day now...
marriage is a social bondage where people get legallity to be with one another. marriage is the successful result of love.
marriage is there no matter wat
It all depends on who you are with. If two people do not agree on the future goals of the relationship, then they may want to reconsider being together at all.
Maybe try:
http://dating.about.com/od/justforthegal鈥?/a>
I guess you wont feel like you desire to make a commitment to that person until you find them, and when you do the feeling is overwhelming to have them in your life as close as you can, and marriage is a representation of your desire to be with someone.
Well I think its matter of opinion and situation. If things are not really going anywhere major I see no point in it but if your having a baby and you both are in massive love with each other then I think its only right for marriage.
it can be scary and it could be the greatest thing that ever happend to you.
ya thery should enjoy friendship first,but then they think that geting married is gonna change things
You are so right. You sound like my type of girl, whats up?
people have differnent mentalities
practically if u cant accept them , dump them
Some people still value morality!
Some people push marriage for religious reasons. Some people push marriage because they want to know and feel like the other person is committed to making the relationship work. Because there are other things at stake in a divorce (i.e. splitting up the children, trying to figure out alimony, etc.) some people are more likely to try to make the relationship work. I, for one, would not just consent to being someone's girlfriend forever because it is just too easy for him to pick up and walk away with my dignity, my heart, and possibly my kids. I deserve better than that and so does everyone else.
If I had you for a girlfriend that looked like you, I would want marriage too, so I could invest my whole life savings and trust to go with not only your looks but into making you shine brighter than the stars I see on TV now days. GRRRR baby you are very beautiful and Marriage isn't an optional allusion. but a dream to any Man that would be in your life come true. I would buy every sorrow thought from all your hurts and p[ains to give you the happness you truely do deserve. I hope the man that you meet can do better than that when he offers you his hand in marriage too. good luck !!
Because those who push think it's the 'right' thing to do....
OR they feel that's the only way to OWN another.
Or.......for the false security, which in fact creates the exact opposite.....in my humble opinion.
putting a commit down on paper and religious reasons.
why don't you ask your mommy and daddy
It works for me. There is no sense in jumping into that kind of relationship until you are really sure that is what you want.
I believe that marriage accounts for that extra ounce of commitment that says ';I will always be faithful to you and you alone.'; But then again, I'm kinda old skool, so what do I know. lol.
I am not married, never was and never will be. I do not accept the authority of a church, priest, state or public official over my very own private life. It is none of their business to tell me with whom I can live or sleep, or to ';pronounce someone husband and wife';. This really sucks, and a lot of the problems we have in the West is due to our stupid social order that puts formality above love and care.
I have a lovely and beautiful life partner. We are both Pagans - she is a Wiccan and I am a Druid - and we have sealed our life bond with a handfasting ceremony in front of a tree and a few of our friends. That makes sense and we are both very happy.
And by the way, have you ever noticed that most people change their personality as soon as they are officially married? That says a lot about it.
Wow, Ms Noelani your hot looking! What was your question again?
Like leasing a car? What marriages have you observed, lady?
because they love you so much that they feel like if they don't get married now they never will and then it ends in disaster then they are hurt
Yeah, but it's a ******' SWEET car...
I dont really know people who push want to marry you to have s ex with you.
Marriage???
If you are married and have a child but cant stand each other any mre do you think that you should stay living with them just because of the child sake or should you make it easier and just leave?Marriage???
go to counseling first and you need to think about the child too how it is or how it will effect him/her.Marriage???
something hppend which is not ofcourse good for your childeren but i think when ever you stop a mistake it is good beside that i think they cannot have goood life in such a house.but before doing anything think more maybe there will be a way.
make an arrangement with my husband..
you see, you were married to a certain person because you love him and you respect him. but if those things are gone, there is no reason to stay in a relationship.
let not the child be the reason for staying in the knot, the more you stay together without love and respect with other, the more the child will suffer.
even if you will not argue infront of the kids, they will somehow be affected.. kids has strong intimacy..
they can read their parents mind and they can feel their parents emotion.
A child had rather come from a broken home, than to live in one. Your child will be just fine. All they want is for you both to be happy, and if you stay together and argue all the time, your child is going to be unhappy. A child is not a reason to stay with someone whom your feelings have changed for. Good luck. If I hear one more person say counseling I'm gonna puke. sorry
I don't think you should live in misery, nor should you just leave. Divorce happens. But I think too many people take the easy way out. Marriage is difficult because you're living with another person, day in and day out, who is changing as the years go on. You, too. So it takes patience and hard work to keep a marriage strong.
If a couple, even after trying their best to work it out, can't...it's not worth it for the kids. If the children see unhappy people barely standing each other, it hurts them emotionally and will make relationships difficult later in life.
I never understood people who say they are together for the sake of the child....It is so much better to live their lives and be happy then stay in an unhappy marriage...Children are so intuitive and innocent....they feel the tension no matter how hard an adult tries to make it unnoticeable......It is impossible for two people that no longer want to be together to not argue or feel some level of frustration or bitterness over the demise of their marriage....children will pick up on this....It is far better to think of themselves and creating a life of happiness which will surely have a more positive impact on the child...
Depends are you fighting in front of the child and making their life miserable. Are you unable to put a show on as a happy family for the kid. Then its best to get out . Sometimes its more beneficial to the children than seeing mom and dad fighting.
Being misserable for the sake of the kids won't work. The kids still know you hate each other. You can try some marriage counseling but if that doesn't work, split.
Just leave. The child isn't getting anything from two parents who hate each other and yell and fight. The child would be better off with divorced parents who are nice to each other at scheduled meeting times.
U can not stay with sum one just because of a child they can feel when things are wrong its better they see the parents apart but happy then together and fighting and unhappy
since there is a child, trust me there will always be fighting even if you leave. try your hardest to get along. The Children become weapons for the other spouse to use against you. Get custody and get him out.
Have you exhausted all avenues, meaning counseling? If so and the two of you are still not happy then do what you feel is best. but keep in mind that marriage is hard on everyone and it takes a lot of time and energy to keep it on the right track. So many people are ready to give up on their marriage but they fight every day for their jobs. You and your husband are obviously experiencing some difficulty but the question is why? Is he as miserable as you? Have you had a conversation about what the two of you are going through? Talk to each other and keep the lines of communication open and if after you have exhausted all avenues and nothing has changed then do not stay together for the child it will only her the child to see his parents in a loveless relationship, after all do you want your child to be in the same relationship that you are experiencing? Just keep in mind that if the two of you decide to separate do not use the child as a weapon to get at each other life is tough enough for kids with out using them to hurt the other. I truly wish you and your family the best of luck during this trying time.
dont be silly u might think the kids dont hear the fights or notice the tension between the two but they do beileve me
its better for the kids to go ur seperate ways
Stay Living with Kids.
What the other person said. It doesn't do any good to raise a child in an environment of hate and anger-and yes they can tell. If you can keep a good relationship going with your ex that would be terrific. Then the child has a good solid home life and the visiting parent's times are good ones too, much better than seeing two people who are supposed to love each other screaming or simply tolerating each other. Chat it over with your partner come to a reasonable conclusion and part friends.
go to counseling first and you need to think about the child too how it is or how it will effect him/her.Marriage???
something hppend which is not ofcourse good for your childeren but i think when ever you stop a mistake it is good beside that i think they cannot have goood life in such a house.but before doing anything think more maybe there will be a way.
make an arrangement with my husband..
you see, you were married to a certain person because you love him and you respect him. but if those things are gone, there is no reason to stay in a relationship.
let not the child be the reason for staying in the knot, the more you stay together without love and respect with other, the more the child will suffer.
even if you will not argue infront of the kids, they will somehow be affected.. kids has strong intimacy..
they can read their parents mind and they can feel their parents emotion.
A child had rather come from a broken home, than to live in one. Your child will be just fine. All they want is for you both to be happy, and if you stay together and argue all the time, your child is going to be unhappy. A child is not a reason to stay with someone whom your feelings have changed for. Good luck. If I hear one more person say counseling I'm gonna puke. sorry
I don't think you should live in misery, nor should you just leave. Divorce happens. But I think too many people take the easy way out. Marriage is difficult because you're living with another person, day in and day out, who is changing as the years go on. You, too. So it takes patience and hard work to keep a marriage strong.
If a couple, even after trying their best to work it out, can't...it's not worth it for the kids. If the children see unhappy people barely standing each other, it hurts them emotionally and will make relationships difficult later in life.
I never understood people who say they are together for the sake of the child....It is so much better to live their lives and be happy then stay in an unhappy marriage...Children are so intuitive and innocent....they feel the tension no matter how hard an adult tries to make it unnoticeable......It is impossible for two people that no longer want to be together to not argue or feel some level of frustration or bitterness over the demise of their marriage....children will pick up on this....It is far better to think of themselves and creating a life of happiness which will surely have a more positive impact on the child...
Depends are you fighting in front of the child and making their life miserable. Are you unable to put a show on as a happy family for the kid. Then its best to get out . Sometimes its more beneficial to the children than seeing mom and dad fighting.
Being misserable for the sake of the kids won't work. The kids still know you hate each other. You can try some marriage counseling but if that doesn't work, split.
Just leave. The child isn't getting anything from two parents who hate each other and yell and fight. The child would be better off with divorced parents who are nice to each other at scheduled meeting times.
U can not stay with sum one just because of a child they can feel when things are wrong its better they see the parents apart but happy then together and fighting and unhappy
since there is a child, trust me there will always be fighting even if you leave. try your hardest to get along. The Children become weapons for the other spouse to use against you. Get custody and get him out.
Have you exhausted all avenues, meaning counseling? If so and the two of you are still not happy then do what you feel is best. but keep in mind that marriage is hard on everyone and it takes a lot of time and energy to keep it on the right track. So many people are ready to give up on their marriage but they fight every day for their jobs. You and your husband are obviously experiencing some difficulty but the question is why? Is he as miserable as you? Have you had a conversation about what the two of you are going through? Talk to each other and keep the lines of communication open and if after you have exhausted all avenues and nothing has changed then do not stay together for the child it will only her the child to see his parents in a loveless relationship, after all do you want your child to be in the same relationship that you are experiencing? Just keep in mind that if the two of you decide to separate do not use the child as a weapon to get at each other life is tough enough for kids with out using them to hurt the other. I truly wish you and your family the best of luck during this trying time.
dont be silly u might think the kids dont hear the fights or notice the tension between the two but they do beileve me
its better for the kids to go ur seperate ways
Stay Living with Kids.
What the other person said. It doesn't do any good to raise a child in an environment of hate and anger-and yes they can tell. If you can keep a good relationship going with your ex that would be terrific. Then the child has a good solid home life and the visiting parent's times are good ones too, much better than seeing two people who are supposed to love each other screaming or simply tolerating each other. Chat it over with your partner come to a reasonable conclusion and part friends.
Marriage??
I've been living with my bf for over a year now, we have a child together, and i do everything a wife should already do.... and he still hasnt asked me to marry him!! Am i waisting my time.... just looking for some friendly advice....Marriage??
If he hasn't put a ring on your finger yet; he probably won't. After all, why should he;he's already getting it.Marriage??
You need to bring up the subject of marriage, it's not a dirty word, and obviously important to you. You need to communicate your needs and feelings, most men will leave well enough alone, and are not gifted in mind reading. Once you have his opinion on this matter, you can make up your mind as to how to proceed from there.
how would we know what your man is thinking...go ask him...
does he know tht this is something you might want? talk it over with him.
This is why you don't do things backward. Tell him what you want and see how he reacts. Don't waste years or chance having another baby without a marriage certificate.
When a woman acts like a wife a man sees no reason to marry her because he already has everything that usually goes along with it. My ex b/f and I were have a child and we lived together for almost 7 yrs...he never asked me. My advice isn't to move out or break up, especially if for the most part you have a good relationship. What I would do is show some independence, whether it means going out with girlfriends or starting a new hobby. Just don't stop growing in yourself. Stay busy, be hard to get --sort of, it's not as easy when you live with them. He will admire you! :)
Talk to him about the fact that it is something you're interested in... see what he says. Make sure he understands that it is important to you to have the title that you are already fulfilling.
I do have to say that this conversation should've come up a while ago though, Hun. You guys kind of went about things backwards.... you want to know he's the right one before you have his baby, not after.
I am in the same situation with bf and kid. He did ask me and we are married but i am starting to think I should of waited. If you aren't into him physically or visa versa you should not get married. Wait till you have been together for a few years regardless what you think people think of your situation. If you love him and he isn't willing to make that decision yet stay and give him sometime. After all all we have is time.
Why are you in such a rush? slow down, a year is not that long. My fiance, and I have been together 7-1/2yrs. We are just now planning our wedding for next year. I'm glad we waited this long. we were able to get to know each better, and we are able to communicate without to much bikering. Trust me I thought about the wasting of time, but I was with someone I love very dearly, so it was worth the wait.
Let me tell you something right now okay it may hurt your feelings you already do what a married woman does for her husband why should he marry you. You haave a child you think this child would change his mind.
best of luck
It sounds to me as if you're giving, but not receiving. You need to have a serious sit-down with your boyfriend, and tell him how you feel. He's getting all the benefits of a wife without actually having one, and that's not fair to you, or the child you have together. If he is fine with the current arrangements, and sees no need to change them, then it's time for you and your child to move on, because neither of you will ever get what you need from him. Never sacrifice your happiness, or that of your child, for someone else.
1. There is no rule against his asking you.
2. If the relationship falls apart he is still liable for child support.
3. If you stay with him for seven years (may vary from state to state) you become common laws husband and wife.
I am going to toss in a guys opinion here.....if you do everything that married people do, what's the big deal if you have that title or not right now. I have lived with my gf for the same amount of time, but I am saving up for more important things such as: a newer house, nicer vehicles, retirement, our future. Instead of wasting a bunch of money on a wedding/honeymoon/rings, we are able to do more fun and exciting things. I would say if he hasn't proposed in about 3-5 years, then I would def. do something about it.
I hate to say the same thing that I'm sure allot of others will say but, it's 2007 not the 1950's. Ask him yourself. His reaction will tell you more than what you will get on here. This is the age that women are more and more taking the initiative to certain situations and this would be a good time for you to do just that.
I do not think you're wasting time. Even though you have a child together, a year of living together is not that long. I don't think anyway.
no. i would say just give him time but a year... um. maybe he is just nervous. he isnt sure how youll respond. if you have a kid, your not wasting your time
You know him more than anyone who answers here does.
Personally, I think you should have had this conversation with him BEFORE you decided to ';play'; at being married. You moved in and had a child with him. Now you have another person to consider and you're tied to this man permanently because he is your child's father. Even if you are wasting your time with him, he will still be in your life for quite some time.
Read over your question again. Your boyfriend already has all the ';benefits'; of marriage without having to deal with any of the responsibility. I'll bet he sees no reason to marry you.
Decide what in life you will and will not accept. Sit down and talk with your boyfriend and work this out. If marriage is what you want, then he has to step up to the plate. If he doesn't, then you have to decide if you're OK with things the way they are or if you are going to move on.
If he hasn't put a ring on your finger yet; he probably won't. After all, why should he;he's already getting it.Marriage??
You need to bring up the subject of marriage, it's not a dirty word, and obviously important to you. You need to communicate your needs and feelings, most men will leave well enough alone, and are not gifted in mind reading. Once you have his opinion on this matter, you can make up your mind as to how to proceed from there.
how would we know what your man is thinking...go ask him...
does he know tht this is something you might want? talk it over with him.
This is why you don't do things backward. Tell him what you want and see how he reacts. Don't waste years or chance having another baby without a marriage certificate.
When a woman acts like a wife a man sees no reason to marry her because he already has everything that usually goes along with it. My ex b/f and I were have a child and we lived together for almost 7 yrs...he never asked me. My advice isn't to move out or break up, especially if for the most part you have a good relationship. What I would do is show some independence, whether it means going out with girlfriends or starting a new hobby. Just don't stop growing in yourself. Stay busy, be hard to get --sort of, it's not as easy when you live with them. He will admire you! :)
Talk to him about the fact that it is something you're interested in... see what he says. Make sure he understands that it is important to you to have the title that you are already fulfilling.
I do have to say that this conversation should've come up a while ago though, Hun. You guys kind of went about things backwards.... you want to know he's the right one before you have his baby, not after.
I am in the same situation with bf and kid. He did ask me and we are married but i am starting to think I should of waited. If you aren't into him physically or visa versa you should not get married. Wait till you have been together for a few years regardless what you think people think of your situation. If you love him and he isn't willing to make that decision yet stay and give him sometime. After all all we have is time.
Why are you in such a rush? slow down, a year is not that long. My fiance, and I have been together 7-1/2yrs. We are just now planning our wedding for next year. I'm glad we waited this long. we were able to get to know each better, and we are able to communicate without to much bikering. Trust me I thought about the wasting of time, but I was with someone I love very dearly, so it was worth the wait.
Let me tell you something right now okay it may hurt your feelings you already do what a married woman does for her husband why should he marry you. You haave a child you think this child would change his mind.
best of luck
It sounds to me as if you're giving, but not receiving. You need to have a serious sit-down with your boyfriend, and tell him how you feel. He's getting all the benefits of a wife without actually having one, and that's not fair to you, or the child you have together. If he is fine with the current arrangements, and sees no need to change them, then it's time for you and your child to move on, because neither of you will ever get what you need from him. Never sacrifice your happiness, or that of your child, for someone else.
1. There is no rule against his asking you.
2. If the relationship falls apart he is still liable for child support.
3. If you stay with him for seven years (may vary from state to state) you become common laws husband and wife.
I am going to toss in a guys opinion here.....if you do everything that married people do, what's the big deal if you have that title or not right now. I have lived with my gf for the same amount of time, but I am saving up for more important things such as: a newer house, nicer vehicles, retirement, our future. Instead of wasting a bunch of money on a wedding/honeymoon/rings, we are able to do more fun and exciting things. I would say if he hasn't proposed in about 3-5 years, then I would def. do something about it.
I hate to say the same thing that I'm sure allot of others will say but, it's 2007 not the 1950's. Ask him yourself. His reaction will tell you more than what you will get on here. This is the age that women are more and more taking the initiative to certain situations and this would be a good time for you to do just that.
I do not think you're wasting time. Even though you have a child together, a year of living together is not that long. I don't think anyway.
no. i would say just give him time but a year... um. maybe he is just nervous. he isnt sure how youll respond. if you have a kid, your not wasting your time
You know him more than anyone who answers here does.
Personally, I think you should have had this conversation with him BEFORE you decided to ';play'; at being married. You moved in and had a child with him. Now you have another person to consider and you're tied to this man permanently because he is your child's father. Even if you are wasting your time with him, he will still be in your life for quite some time.
Read over your question again. Your boyfriend already has all the ';benefits'; of marriage without having to deal with any of the responsibility. I'll bet he sees no reason to marry you.
Decide what in life you will and will not accept. Sit down and talk with your boyfriend and work this out. If marriage is what you want, then he has to step up to the plate. If he doesn't, then you have to decide if you're OK with things the way they are or if you are going to move on.
Marriage??
People say you should take your relationship slow and not fast?? Why is that?Marriage??
If you go up on the stairs step by step you are safe - if you take more than one at a time there is a good chance you will fall.Marriage??
because if you take it to fast you may not get to know that person really well as when you take it slow. If you take it slow it could be some sort of test to see if that person is committed to you or not, divorce is high because they don't take the time to see if they can actually stand each other instead of taking their time to see if they can. I've been with my boyfriend for 4 years and now we are getting married, and i feel confident because i know his habits and know what to expect and accepting it. so i believe slow is the best
That expression is often stated while a couple is dating---for obvious reasons. Having sex with someone impairs your ability to see the other person clearly, and you miss important signs of whether you should actually be with this other person or not. The intent of taking things slowly is so that a couple can really get to know one another BEFORE they become intimately involved.
Because marriage is a really serious thing that nowadays people take so lightly. So you should take a relationship slow just to be sure that you really trully want to be with this person. If you take that step too fast something MIGHT happen that could lead to divorce.
Because slower is more fun, engaging and more effort for the chase and the catch, that feeling can be prolong if taken slowly and carefully rather than a rushed relationship, when going too fast, it's all about sex and the novelty will wear off and people get bored.
My wife and I got married after know each other for just 6 weeks, we are still in love and I don鈥檛 regret anything, more sex would be nice but other then that, I鈥檓 good.
If you go up on the stairs step by step you are safe - if you take more than one at a time there is a good chance you will fall.Marriage??
because if you take it to fast you may not get to know that person really well as when you take it slow. If you take it slow it could be some sort of test to see if that person is committed to you or not, divorce is high because they don't take the time to see if they can actually stand each other instead of taking their time to see if they can. I've been with my boyfriend for 4 years and now we are getting married, and i feel confident because i know his habits and know what to expect and accepting it. so i believe slow is the best
That expression is often stated while a couple is dating---for obvious reasons. Having sex with someone impairs your ability to see the other person clearly, and you miss important signs of whether you should actually be with this other person or not. The intent of taking things slowly is so that a couple can really get to know one another BEFORE they become intimately involved.
Because marriage is a really serious thing that nowadays people take so lightly. So you should take a relationship slow just to be sure that you really trully want to be with this person. If you take that step too fast something MIGHT happen that could lead to divorce.
Because slower is more fun, engaging and more effort for the chase and the catch, that feeling can be prolong if taken slowly and carefully rather than a rushed relationship, when going too fast, it's all about sex and the novelty will wear off and people get bored.
My wife and I got married after know each other for just 6 weeks, we are still in love and I don鈥檛 regret anything, more sex would be nice but other then that, I鈥檓 good.
Marriage?....?
I want to marry my boyfriend soooo bad but he doesnt want to i dont see the problem we have a kid together that is about to be one we also live with eachother in our own apartment...whats wrong he told me once that we have only know eachother for 2 yrs and that we Really dont know eachother to well!...what does this mean? im confused!Marriage?....?
it means marriage is a big step and he is taking it slow.Marriage?....?
He's not ready to marry you, leave him alone %26amp; don't ever ask him again or else he will leave you. Men will commit when they are good %26amp; ready.
he is not yet ready.
It means that you jumped into a marriage-type relationship with him before getting married. You're living together and have a kid - what incentive is there to get married? He's getting everything he would want or need from a marriage, without the legal hassle.
its crazy to say that you know each other well enough to live together and for you to have his child,but not enough to marry you ? it seems like hes alittle afraid of marriage or maybe is unsure of your relationship ,i would talk to him about what your feeling and maybe let him know you will not wait forever for him to ';know you '; thats crazy .
Here is one opinion:
QUOTE:
All the older guys I know, guys that are 55 and older are telling me the same story; don't do it. It just turns to crap no matter what you do. They'd rather be independent. At best it's a tedious bore. At worst a living hell with financial ruin thrown in for good measure. The problem is that when you're young, you just naturally fall into this mind set where your whole self image is based on how women regard you, and so you spend all your money and energy trying to make yourself acceptable to them. Then later in life the shine wears off and you finally realize that you've wasted yourself on a bunch of crap.
Children - ';the ultimate human experience';
I couldn't even begin to list all of the older folks i know from work or through my family with kids they either don't get along with, are disappointed in, or are so distant as to not even be a factor in each other's lives.
I'm really skeptical about the idea of children as ';the ultimate blessing.'; How many friends do you have with little or no meaningful contact or relationships with their parents?
I would wager the statistic for happy child/parent relations would be as bad, if not worse, than the marriage numbers. Who wants to deal with TWO bitter, unfulfilling relationships?!
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If it aint broke don`t fix it!!! What difference does a stupid piece of paper saying that you`re married mean? Unless you want leverage for the future divorce so you can steal half his money!!!
Ever heard that there is a food that can cut a womans sex by up to 90%? Its called wedding cake!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT BE CONFUSE.. IT'S JUST THAT HE DONT WONT TO MARRY YOU. A CHILD DONT MAKE HIM WANT YOU NO MORE.....BUT LET ME TELL YOU HE FEEL THAT ITS EASY TO STAY WITH YOU AND PLAY HOUSE .. SO IF HE DECIDES TO LEAVE IT WONT BE NO STRINGS ATTACHED.. DO YOU GET THE PIC..GGET YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND MOVEON IF HE DONT WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE...
He may be worried that your relationship may change with marriage and it scares him. But really after two years and a child
he must know you and he is not ready to commit to you and may never he feels secure in your relationship and is happy he may also not believe in the whole marriage thing. Tell him that 2yrs is plenty of time to get to know someone and if he was okay with you having your child why cant he make an honest women out of you.
it means he is happy the way things are and he doesnt want to make it legal. divorce is so ugly and then she wants all your money and all your stuff...
He means he wants to be sure its only been two years you been together. It takes a while for the real you to come out and expose each other to what that is. I got married 10 months after being with my ex. I did not know how emotionally weak she was at the time. There are some truths that take time to get to, and he just wants to be suremakeup
it means marriage is a big step and he is taking it slow.Marriage?....?
He's not ready to marry you, leave him alone %26amp; don't ever ask him again or else he will leave you. Men will commit when they are good %26amp; ready.
he is not yet ready.
It means that you jumped into a marriage-type relationship with him before getting married. You're living together and have a kid - what incentive is there to get married? He's getting everything he would want or need from a marriage, without the legal hassle.
its crazy to say that you know each other well enough to live together and for you to have his child,but not enough to marry you ? it seems like hes alittle afraid of marriage or maybe is unsure of your relationship ,i would talk to him about what your feeling and maybe let him know you will not wait forever for him to ';know you '; thats crazy .
Here is one opinion:
QUOTE:
All the older guys I know, guys that are 55 and older are telling me the same story; don't do it. It just turns to crap no matter what you do. They'd rather be independent. At best it's a tedious bore. At worst a living hell with financial ruin thrown in for good measure. The problem is that when you're young, you just naturally fall into this mind set where your whole self image is based on how women regard you, and so you spend all your money and energy trying to make yourself acceptable to them. Then later in life the shine wears off and you finally realize that you've wasted yourself on a bunch of crap.
Children - ';the ultimate human experience';
I couldn't even begin to list all of the older folks i know from work or through my family with kids they either don't get along with, are disappointed in, or are so distant as to not even be a factor in each other's lives.
I'm really skeptical about the idea of children as ';the ultimate blessing.'; How many friends do you have with little or no meaningful contact or relationships with their parents?
I would wager the statistic for happy child/parent relations would be as bad, if not worse, than the marriage numbers. Who wants to deal with TWO bitter, unfulfilling relationships?!
UNQUOTE
If it aint broke don`t fix it!!! What difference does a stupid piece of paper saying that you`re married mean? Unless you want leverage for the future divorce so you can steal half his money!!!
Ever heard that there is a food that can cut a womans sex by up to 90%? Its called wedding cake!!!!!!!!!!!
DONT BE CONFUSE.. IT'S JUST THAT HE DONT WONT TO MARRY YOU. A CHILD DONT MAKE HIM WANT YOU NO MORE.....BUT LET ME TELL YOU HE FEEL THAT ITS EASY TO STAY WITH YOU AND PLAY HOUSE .. SO IF HE DECIDES TO LEAVE IT WONT BE NO STRINGS ATTACHED.. DO YOU GET THE PIC..GGET YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND MOVEON IF HE DONT WANT TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE...
He may be worried that your relationship may change with marriage and it scares him. But really after two years and a child
he must know you and he is not ready to commit to you and may never he feels secure in your relationship and is happy he may also not believe in the whole marriage thing. Tell him that 2yrs is plenty of time to get to know someone and if he was okay with you having your child why cant he make an honest women out of you.
it means he is happy the way things are and he doesnt want to make it legal. divorce is so ugly and then she wants all your money and all your stuff...
He means he wants to be sure its only been two years you been together. It takes a while for the real you to come out and expose each other to what that is. I got married 10 months after being with my ex. I did not know how emotionally weak she was at the time. There are some truths that take time to get to, and he just wants to be sure
How long does a marriage license application take to process?
In the state of California.How long does a marriage license application take to process?
I think it's 3 days.
Edit: nope I was wrong they do not have a waiting period.
http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriagelic鈥?/a>How long does a marriage license application take to process?
as long as you have the blood test, you can get married at the same time you get your license.
Depends on the county and so much other stuff, but it can be done in three hours or less.
it takes 6mnths or 6wks but if you do it w/h a jugde 24hrs
I think it's 3 days.
Edit: nope I was wrong they do not have a waiting period.
http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriagelic鈥?/a>How long does a marriage license application take to process?
as long as you have the blood test, you can get married at the same time you get your license.
Depends on the county and so much other stuff, but it can be done in three hours or less.
it takes 6mnths or 6wks but if you do it w/h a jugde 24hrs
Are there any other respected ways of committing other than engagement/marriage?
Me and my girlfriend want to commit, but aren't comfortable with the legal side of marriage. Are there any respected ways of committing which don't involve the religious and legal aspects of marriage?
Please don't answer if you are simply going to make assumptions about my personal life and worldview- I just want to know the options I have. Thankyou!Are there any other respected ways of committing other than engagement/marriage?
You can actually be married without actually being married legal. Stay in a relationship for as long as you like. Commit to each other as if you guys are married, but don't worry about the whole strings that are attached to marriage. I have a co-worker who is ';married'; but not legally married, they both have been living together for years, and they both have a kid, she changed her last name to his, and they share an account. But they're not legally married. Pretty much only you two will know that this is a commitment to each other. People outside of your relationship will probably think it's stupid. But it should only matter to you.Are there any other respected ways of committing other than engagement/marriage?
There is no force on earth that can keep you and your girlfriend from committing to each other. That is between you and her and no one else. Your relationship would be respected by virtue of your respect to one another.
I'm not sure what you're really asking. If you're not comfortable with the legal aspects of marriage, you wouldn't be any more comfortable with common-law or domestic partnerships. You should be aware that, legally, neither of you would be allowed to make medical decisions for each other without medical power of attorney - and even then it can be overturned by a family member.
HAVE A COMMITMENT CERAMONY. ITS NOT LEGAL. DOESNT HAVE TO BE RELIGIOUS. I HAVE GAY FRIENDS WHO HAVE DONE THIS SINCE MY STATE DOESNT ALLOW MARRIAGE YET. I HAVE ALSO RECOMMENDED IT TO MY FATHER (MY MOM DIED YOUNG AND HE GETS BENEFITS UNTIL HE REMARRIES, WHICH WOULD NOT BE SMART).. YOU CAN INVITE FRIENDS AND HAVE A PARTY AND EVERYTHING JUST TO SHOW YOUR LOVE TO EACH OTHER.
I would research cultural commitment ceremonies... hand fasting maybe? And in response to the above answer - just because you live together and share bills doesn't necessarily mean you have a common-law marriage - the requirements vary state by state.
What you two have together is your own decision. Really, after several months of living together and sharing bills, you are common-law anyway.
There really aren't any other ways that are socially respected as a commitment. I guess maybe living together???
Not really.
Marriage is taking vows, or committing, to each other.
It doesn't have to be religious.
What's uncomfortable about the legal part?
Try giving her a promise ring- It's not an engagement, just a promise to be faithful to each other
Start a business together.
You could pinky promise - that'll do it.
Please don't answer if you are simply going to make assumptions about my personal life and worldview- I just want to know the options I have. Thankyou!Are there any other respected ways of committing other than engagement/marriage?
You can actually be married without actually being married legal. Stay in a relationship for as long as you like. Commit to each other as if you guys are married, but don't worry about the whole strings that are attached to marriage. I have a co-worker who is ';married'; but not legally married, they both have been living together for years, and they both have a kid, she changed her last name to his, and they share an account. But they're not legally married. Pretty much only you two will know that this is a commitment to each other. People outside of your relationship will probably think it's stupid. But it should only matter to you.Are there any other respected ways of committing other than engagement/marriage?
There is no force on earth that can keep you and your girlfriend from committing to each other. That is between you and her and no one else. Your relationship would be respected by virtue of your respect to one another.
I'm not sure what you're really asking. If you're not comfortable with the legal aspects of marriage, you wouldn't be any more comfortable with common-law or domestic partnerships. You should be aware that, legally, neither of you would be allowed to make medical decisions for each other without medical power of attorney - and even then it can be overturned by a family member.
HAVE A COMMITMENT CERAMONY. ITS NOT LEGAL. DOESNT HAVE TO BE RELIGIOUS. I HAVE GAY FRIENDS WHO HAVE DONE THIS SINCE MY STATE DOESNT ALLOW MARRIAGE YET. I HAVE ALSO RECOMMENDED IT TO MY FATHER (MY MOM DIED YOUNG AND HE GETS BENEFITS UNTIL HE REMARRIES, WHICH WOULD NOT BE SMART).. YOU CAN INVITE FRIENDS AND HAVE A PARTY AND EVERYTHING JUST TO SHOW YOUR LOVE TO EACH OTHER.
I would research cultural commitment ceremonies... hand fasting maybe? And in response to the above answer - just because you live together and share bills doesn't necessarily mean you have a common-law marriage - the requirements vary state by state.
What you two have together is your own decision. Really, after several months of living together and sharing bills, you are common-law anyway.
There really aren't any other ways that are socially respected as a commitment. I guess maybe living together???
Not really.
Marriage is taking vows, or committing, to each other.
It doesn't have to be religious.
What's uncomfortable about the legal part?
Try giving her a promise ring- It's not an engagement, just a promise to be faithful to each other
Start a business together.
You could pinky promise - that'll do it.
How does common law marriage affect separate obligations of the parties?
For instance-if one party has a judgment against them for $50,000 for an auto accident and the parties move from a state where common law marriage is not recognized to one where common law marriage is recognized-how and when (if at all) will the second party become liable for the liabilities or obligations of the first?How does common law marriage affect separate obligations of the parties?
Go 2 Judge JudyHow does common law marriage affect separate obligations of the parties?
Even if the state does recognize common law marriage, the requirements are usually much more than just living together. You need to find out for certain what the common law requirements are in the state you're in. Then you'll know whether or not you need to even pursue an answer to your question. If it does turn out that your relationship is recognized as a common law marriage, make an appointment with an attorney to ask questions like this. Many of them will offer a free initial consult. Call around until you find one that does and make an appointment to see them. Have a list of all your questions ready so you'll get answers to everything that you want to know about. It won't cost you anything but a few phone calls and a little time.
I would speak to an attorney, since many other factors may contribute to the outcome.
Generally ANY situation where debt gets considered, so does the income. So for example, if one party makes more money than the other, that could have an affect over who pays for what, and so on.
Also, anytime that finances and belongings get combined (';community property';) to determine who gets what so does the determination of what actually IS community property. So for example, the judgment (if acquired BEFORE you two were ';together';), it may be considered solely that party's issue.
It's well worth a consult with an attorney....or two!
they may not at all
much depends on time frame
if living together as husband and wife but in a non common law state and a judgment against one party was entered, that judgment becomes the one party's debt, not the others, even if the move to a common law state, since the time of common law would begin in the other state, as you cannot go retro active to ';pre date'; the common law marriage , when it was never in effect.
only new judgments in second state would count against the marriage in general ( and even then against the individual, not the couple, unless of course the couple did the damage )
speak to a lawyer in your state. Most states don't have common law anymore.
Go 2 Judge JudyHow does common law marriage affect separate obligations of the parties?
Even if the state does recognize common law marriage, the requirements are usually much more than just living together. You need to find out for certain what the common law requirements are in the state you're in. Then you'll know whether or not you need to even pursue an answer to your question. If it does turn out that your relationship is recognized as a common law marriage, make an appointment with an attorney to ask questions like this. Many of them will offer a free initial consult. Call around until you find one that does and make an appointment to see them. Have a list of all your questions ready so you'll get answers to everything that you want to know about. It won't cost you anything but a few phone calls and a little time.
I would speak to an attorney, since many other factors may contribute to the outcome.
Generally ANY situation where debt gets considered, so does the income. So for example, if one party makes more money than the other, that could have an affect over who pays for what, and so on.
Also, anytime that finances and belongings get combined (';community property';) to determine who gets what so does the determination of what actually IS community property. So for example, the judgment (if acquired BEFORE you two were ';together';), it may be considered solely that party's issue.
It's well worth a consult with an attorney....or two!
they may not at all
much depends on time frame
if living together as husband and wife but in a non common law state and a judgment against one party was entered, that judgment becomes the one party's debt, not the others, even if the move to a common law state, since the time of common law would begin in the other state, as you cannot go retro active to ';pre date'; the common law marriage , when it was never in effect.
only new judgments in second state would count against the marriage in general ( and even then against the individual, not the couple, unless of course the couple did the damage )
speak to a lawyer in your state. Most states don't have common law anymore.
How does legalizing Gay Marriage pose a threat to religious liberties? What are the principal concerns?
The ONLY thing that it changes is an entry in the dictionary.
Society will not collapse, the sky will not fall, %26amp; the universe will not implode.
poster below%26gt;%26gt; civil unions do not have the same benefits as marriage
Marriage wasn't even a ';Religious event'; until 1563.
http://marriage.about.com/cs/generalhist…How does legalizing Gay Marriage pose a threat to religious liberties? What are the principal concerns?
Gay marriage only poses a threat to health insurance companies and little kids. I'm a sound believer that being gay is not a choice but more an electrical short in the brain. Though I don't think it is their choice, gays and lesbians should'nt be running around adopting normal little kids pretending like everything is great. Want to get married, go for it. However human nature only allows male x female reproduction and until they can do that leave the kids out of the abnormal life.How does legalizing Gay Marriage pose a threat to religious liberties? What are the principal concerns?
Marriage by definition describes a man's and a woman's legal union whose main purpose is to make that man and that woman legally responsible for the issue of their union. For their children, that is.
Marriage is not by any stretch of the imagination a ';right'; but rather involves the assumption of responsibilities.
A relationship between two (apparently sexually deranged) men or women of the same sex cannot produce children and therefore simply does not fit the definition, ';marriage.';
Which surely makes moot the further question of whether or not any individual's ';religious liberty'; is affected?
Perhaps if the sexually-deranged ';community'; called its pairings up by any other name it might relieve its anxieties?
The only thing that legalized gay marriage threatens is the dogma of the religious groups who preach so rapidly against it .
When you think about it anti-gay marriage laws are a violation of the First Amendment in that they use the power of the State to enforce the dogma of the ';Church';
To the guy who said that watching two gay people kiss in public is disgusting ,well so is watching two super-morbidly obese heteros attempting to do the same thing.....and nobody has written a law preventing them from doing that
Religions love to tell you how to live your life, gay marriage will hurt religion badly because they keep saying gay people will go to hell, the situation is that more and more people are getting to meet someone who is gay, and they find they are not evil or bad, just different.
Religious liberty will not be harmed because everyone has the liberty to choose what religion to practice, it is religion that harms our pesonal liberties by trying to control our lifes for their profit.
No threat, just people trying dictate how each other should live. People are against change: (and I am not quoting Obama here)
Abolition of Slavery
Equal rights for blacks
Minimum age to work
Unionization
Minimum wage
Women suffrage
Interracial marriage
Gay marriage
Abortion
Asians couldn't marry whites until 1963. I have an Asian wife and the thought that some old politician could get in the way of my marriage due to his own personal bias would make me absolutely crazy!!!! So I can sympathize with the gay marriage and equal rights movement.
It happens that gays were a major factor in women and minorities getting equal rights. But when it comes time for Gays to get their rights everybody is too busy doing their own thing. I guess people only join together when they have a common problem.
If you love someone you tell them not to do something that harms them.
Religious fervor against the gay agenda is not about self protection.
The further we as a society stray from truth, the more obvious it will become.
The real question is ';If civil unions have the legal status of marriage, why does the gay agenda continue to need to usurp the title of marriage?';
It will pose a threat to the religious right - they will not be able to tell others how to live their own lives. That's something “the religious right ” will not tolerate.
It doesn't.
The problem is that we'd be saying ';making a lifestyle choice'; makes somebody better than normal people. That they somehow deserve special treatment and extra rights.
And that should be a concern for all Americans.
They are all afraid, they could also be gay ;-)
It's just disgusting to see homo's kissing at a ball game. Even LA Dodgers had those types kicked out. Kids shouldn't be confused like that!
If the government wasnt involved in the marriage business it wouldnt be an issue would it?
No, there is no threat. No religious figure will be forced to gay marry couples.
Because it threatens their ability to be small minded bigots
It isn't but it is a ridiculously stupid idea..
It doesn't.
Because I don't want my grandchildren to see you sucking face.
it is gross and makes us normal people sick.
Gay rights and other liberal groups want to criminalize Christianity. They want to punish those who do not support gay marriage. It's a known fact that liberals are anti-Christian (yet they have no problem supporting Muslim groups who KILL people for being gay!
Society will not collapse, the sky will not fall, %26amp; the universe will not implode.
poster below%26gt;%26gt; civil unions do not have the same benefits as marriage
Marriage wasn't even a ';Religious event'; until 1563.
http://marriage.about.com/cs/generalhist…How does legalizing Gay Marriage pose a threat to religious liberties? What are the principal concerns?
Gay marriage only poses a threat to health insurance companies and little kids. I'm a sound believer that being gay is not a choice but more an electrical short in the brain. Though I don't think it is their choice, gays and lesbians should'nt be running around adopting normal little kids pretending like everything is great. Want to get married, go for it. However human nature only allows male x female reproduction and until they can do that leave the kids out of the abnormal life.How does legalizing Gay Marriage pose a threat to religious liberties? What are the principal concerns?
Marriage by definition describes a man's and a woman's legal union whose main purpose is to make that man and that woman legally responsible for the issue of their union. For their children, that is.
Marriage is not by any stretch of the imagination a ';right'; but rather involves the assumption of responsibilities.
A relationship between two (apparently sexually deranged) men or women of the same sex cannot produce children and therefore simply does not fit the definition, ';marriage.';
Which surely makes moot the further question of whether or not any individual's ';religious liberty'; is affected?
Perhaps if the sexually-deranged ';community'; called its pairings up by any other name it might relieve its anxieties?
The only thing that legalized gay marriage threatens is the dogma of the religious groups who preach so rapidly against it .
When you think about it anti-gay marriage laws are a violation of the First Amendment in that they use the power of the State to enforce the dogma of the ';Church';
To the guy who said that watching two gay people kiss in public is disgusting ,well so is watching two super-morbidly obese heteros attempting to do the same thing.....and nobody has written a law preventing them from doing that
Religions love to tell you how to live your life, gay marriage will hurt religion badly because they keep saying gay people will go to hell, the situation is that more and more people are getting to meet someone who is gay, and they find they are not evil or bad, just different.
Religious liberty will not be harmed because everyone has the liberty to choose what religion to practice, it is religion that harms our pesonal liberties by trying to control our lifes for their profit.
No threat, just people trying dictate how each other should live. People are against change: (and I am not quoting Obama here)
Abolition of Slavery
Equal rights for blacks
Minimum age to work
Unionization
Minimum wage
Women suffrage
Interracial marriage
Gay marriage
Abortion
Asians couldn't marry whites until 1963. I have an Asian wife and the thought that some old politician could get in the way of my marriage due to his own personal bias would make me absolutely crazy!!!! So I can sympathize with the gay marriage and equal rights movement.
It happens that gays were a major factor in women and minorities getting equal rights. But when it comes time for Gays to get their rights everybody is too busy doing their own thing. I guess people only join together when they have a common problem.
If you love someone you tell them not to do something that harms them.
Religious fervor against the gay agenda is not about self protection.
The further we as a society stray from truth, the more obvious it will become.
The real question is ';If civil unions have the legal status of marriage, why does the gay agenda continue to need to usurp the title of marriage?';
It will pose a threat to the religious right - they will not be able to tell others how to live their own lives. That's something “the religious right ” will not tolerate.
It doesn't.
The problem is that we'd be saying ';making a lifestyle choice'; makes somebody better than normal people. That they somehow deserve special treatment and extra rights.
And that should be a concern for all Americans.
They are all afraid, they could also be gay ;-)
It's just disgusting to see homo's kissing at a ball game. Even LA Dodgers had those types kicked out. Kids shouldn't be confused like that!
If the government wasnt involved in the marriage business it wouldnt be an issue would it?
No, there is no threat. No religious figure will be forced to gay marry couples.
Because it threatens their ability to be small minded bigots
It isn't but it is a ridiculously stupid idea..
It doesn't.
Because I don't want my grandchildren to see you sucking face.
it is gross and makes us normal people sick.
Gay rights and other liberal groups want to criminalize Christianity. They want to punish those who do not support gay marriage. It's a known fact that liberals are anti-Christian (yet they have no problem supporting Muslim groups who KILL people for being gay!
How many times will the people have to vote against gay marriage before the gays give up?
Gay marriage has now lost in every single state — 31 in all — in which it has been put to a popular vote.
How many more times do the people have to say ';no?';How many times will the people have to vote against gay marriage before the gays give up?
Why a person with a sane maind should say ';Yes'; to gay marriage? It's abnormal my goodness.
Men and women, male and female, day and night, summer and winter...this is how the world works. And some people are twisting it. You will not find any animal that are gay except human.
We should not despise gay people, but we need to help bring them back to normal, and certainly not to endorse what they are doing. It's a mental imbalance, not a matter of choice.How many times will the people have to vote against gay marriage before the gays give up?
';We should not despise gay people, but we need to help bring them back to normal';
-We ARE normal
AND we aren't going to give up, you unAmerican fascists.
Questioner: How ironic that your screen name is ';Freedom';. I guess you don't believe in freedom for others do you?
Nice choice for a best answer, bigot. You really are brainless.
Sorry, but you are so wrong and uneducated.
In fact, there are hundreds of examples of exclusive same-sex orientation to be found in the animal kingdom, including examples among male bighorn sheep, black swans, lions, giraffes, and many others.
Read ';Biological Exuberance'; by Bruce Bagemihl.
It should be illegal to ask stupid questions and then pick stupid answers as best!
i think it's moving in the right direction actually. 2 more states have approved same sex marriages :) get your facts straight and your head out of your bum :0
Until 2004, same-sex couples couldn’t wed anywhere in the country. Now, gay marriage is legal in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, Maine and most recently New Hampshire.
The Northeast is growing as a stronghold of government recognition of same-sex relationships, with legal wedlock in five states -- including Vermont as of Sept. 1, 2009, and Maine as of Sept. 16, if the law is not suspended because of a voter movement to repeal it, and New Hampshire as of Jan. 1, 2010. In the same region, Maine, Connecticut, New Jersey and the District of Columbia also offer legal alternatives known as civil unions and domestic partnerships. New York and Rhode Island recognize out-of-state marriages of gay partners.
On the West Coast, California, Oregon and Washington offer same-sex couples all state-level marriage benefits under domestic partnerships laws. Nevada and Hawaii have domestic partnership laws that offer some, but not all marriage benefits.
Iowa is the first heartland state to recognize gay marriage, effective April 24, 2009, following a unanimous state Supreme Court decision April 3.
Gay couples have gained greater acceptance in eight states with marriage alternatives, including domestic partnerships and civil unions: California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon and Washington state. Now that marriage is legal in Connecticut, New Hampshire and Vermont, civil union laws are being phased out and couples in civil unions are being converted to marriage.
In short: never! Why does it concern you are you looking to marry someone of the same sex? Are you afraid you wife is going to leave you for a lesbian? Are you so uncomfortable by the fact? Will your life will be ruined if same sex couple can marry in more states. It's not just a bunch of fags and ******* who a fighting for this right it's people who have been fighting to be who they are they're whole life. Bigots like you didn't drive every homosexual to commit suicide in their teens, so there's plenty of homosexuals out there who want change. When are you going to shut up and mind you're own business? Probably never, and you shouldn't Americans have the right to voice their opinions and fight for their rights. Do you not support that right either ';Freedom?';
Well, lets see 99,999,999 more times.Sounds good to me! Look,stop crying about it. You and your homophobe buddies need to shut up about it. It's going to happen.You need to think about this in a different way. We have fought in wars.and we are fighting in this war. Got any siblings in the current war? One of us may have saved his/her life.Ever donate blood? Ever get a blood transfusion? We donate. If you needed blood,we would roll up are sleeves and bleed for you. you gonna tell me you'd rather lay there and die,if the only blood compatible with you,was from me,a gay person? You lie! When i use the word gay i'm meaning all gay's/lesbians/transgenderd/and bi's.Look,we are Dr's,Lawyers,Ironworkers,Mecanics,Politi… are tax payers.We build things for you.We fix things for you.We treat you when you are sick or injured we care for you.We babysit your kids. Hell,some of us actually raise your children.We defend you in court. We cook your food. We are police officers. we are in the military,don't doubt it. we are pilots,we are nascar drivers,wrestlers we are rich,poor. we are actors,singers,comedians. we are teachers.we are white/blue collar workers we are human...we bleed red...we are americans.....we are here..we always have been..always will be.. we are. We do and have everything you do except one thing, the right to marry. We will in time, have that right. It will happen. maybe not in my life time, but it will happen.
What's ';un-American';, Jacob, is refusing people's rights based on their sexual orientation. Here I thought you were a free country. Are you going to deny black people's rights too?
If you're so uncomfortable with gay marriage don't have one.
You can vote against gay marriage as many times as you want.
Because it will be made legal as soon as the federal government finally discovers that it's banning is discrimination.
Umm.. we won't give up because its not right for people to force their beliefs on us to stop us from marrying the one we love just as everyone else does. We will fight for our equal rights until we get them because everyone is equal and hell we deserve the same rights!!!!!
I was pretty sure it was doing ok in a few states now, like Iowa and Massachusetts. I'm pretty sure regardless of what other people do or think, we will never give up and never surrender our constant struggle.
People have been struggling with creeping gay marriage for thousands of years. The issue has been coming %26amp; going for thousands of years. It's nothing new. Sort of like global warming.
You know this is going to go to the Supreme Court, and when it does, and you LOSE, none of those losses will matter.
ESAD.
It's very strange that USA claims to be the freedom country, but why no freedom for Gays??...
I think you should give up and do like what here in Norway we did. LET GAY PEOPLE MARRY, HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS..SIMPLE AS THAT!!
Yeah, slavery in the South was the same way.
The ';majority'; is not always correct, and the rights of minorities must be protected.
As many as it takes until we hav freedom. There will always be people fighting for freedom, always. It's the hypocrites who oppress that have to be afraid.
How many times will gay people win the right to equal rights before homophobes give up?
It's a two way street, stupid.
until people wake up to themselves and realise that gay people should have the same rights as everyone else and let us marry if we want to!
they won't. they're convinced it will work as long as you give 'em time. give it up bud, time to find a new cause. that goes both ways.
There is no quitting. Especially in the face of brute majoritarianism and cheating.
Gay people don't give up easily. We are actually very strong and good fighters. In case you haven't noticed.
Wait a second, didn't there used to be 50 states?
And no. We will never give up.
Get lost you troll.
until they have equal rights.
WE THE PEOPLE includes Gays,,,,
,are you saying Gays are not people,,,
,surely not ????
how many whites in the south would've voted for civil right for blacks??? newton's law on opposite reaction
we won't give up until we prevail.
Yep, the only way it ever makes it through is when the government forces it into law without allowing the people to vote on it. How un-American is that?
AS many as it takes.
They need to go back into the closet.
Hopefully not too long, I'm getting tired of hearing about it
How many more times do the people have to say ';no?';How many times will the people have to vote against gay marriage before the gays give up?
Why a person with a sane maind should say ';Yes'; to gay marriage? It's abnormal my goodness.
Men and women, male and female, day and night, summer and winter...this is how the world works. And some people are twisting it. You will not find any animal that are gay except human.
We should not despise gay people, but we need to help bring them back to normal, and certainly not to endorse what they are doing. It's a mental imbalance, not a matter of choice.How many times will the people have to vote against gay marriage before the gays give up?
';We should not despise gay people, but we need to help bring them back to normal';
-We ARE normal
AND we aren't going to give up, you unAmerican fascists.
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Questioner: How ironic that your screen name is ';Freedom';. I guess you don't believe in freedom for others do you?
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Nice choice for a best answer, bigot. You really are brainless.
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Sorry, but you are so wrong and uneducated.
In fact, there are hundreds of examples of exclusive same-sex orientation to be found in the animal kingdom, including examples among male bighorn sheep, black swans, lions, giraffes, and many others.
Read ';Biological Exuberance'; by Bruce Bagemihl.
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It should be illegal to ask stupid questions and then pick stupid answers as best!
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i think it's moving in the right direction actually. 2 more states have approved same sex marriages :) get your facts straight and your head out of your bum :0
Until 2004, same-sex couples couldn’t wed anywhere in the country. Now, gay marriage is legal in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, Maine and most recently New Hampshire.
The Northeast is growing as a stronghold of government recognition of same-sex relationships, with legal wedlock in five states -- including Vermont as of Sept. 1, 2009, and Maine as of Sept. 16, if the law is not suspended because of a voter movement to repeal it, and New Hampshire as of Jan. 1, 2010. In the same region, Maine, Connecticut, New Jersey and the District of Columbia also offer legal alternatives known as civil unions and domestic partnerships. New York and Rhode Island recognize out-of-state marriages of gay partners.
On the West Coast, California, Oregon and Washington offer same-sex couples all state-level marriage benefits under domestic partnerships laws. Nevada and Hawaii have domestic partnership laws that offer some, but not all marriage benefits.
Iowa is the first heartland state to recognize gay marriage, effective April 24, 2009, following a unanimous state Supreme Court decision April 3.
Gay couples have gained greater acceptance in eight states with marriage alternatives, including domestic partnerships and civil unions: California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon and Washington state. Now that marriage is legal in Connecticut, New Hampshire and Vermont, civil union laws are being phased out and couples in civil unions are being converted to marriage.
In short: never! Why does it concern you are you looking to marry someone of the same sex? Are you afraid you wife is going to leave you for a lesbian? Are you so uncomfortable by the fact? Will your life will be ruined if same sex couple can marry in more states. It's not just a bunch of fags and ******* who a fighting for this right it's people who have been fighting to be who they are they're whole life. Bigots like you didn't drive every homosexual to commit suicide in their teens, so there's plenty of homosexuals out there who want change. When are you going to shut up and mind you're own business? Probably never, and you shouldn't Americans have the right to voice their opinions and fight for their rights. Do you not support that right either ';Freedom?';
Well, lets see 99,999,999 more times.Sounds good to me! Look,stop crying about it. You and your homophobe buddies need to shut up about it. It's going to happen.You need to think about this in a different way. We have fought in wars.and we are fighting in this war. Got any siblings in the current war? One of us may have saved his/her life.Ever donate blood? Ever get a blood transfusion? We donate. If you needed blood,we would roll up are sleeves and bleed for you. you gonna tell me you'd rather lay there and die,if the only blood compatible with you,was from me,a gay person? You lie! When i use the word gay i'm meaning all gay's/lesbians/transgenderd/and bi's.Look,we are Dr's,Lawyers,Ironworkers,Mecanics,Politi… are tax payers.We build things for you.We fix things for you.We treat you when you are sick or injured we care for you.We babysit your kids. Hell,some of us actually raise your children.We defend you in court. We cook your food. We are police officers. we are in the military,don't doubt it. we are pilots,we are nascar drivers,wrestlers we are rich,poor. we are actors,singers,comedians. we are teachers.we are white/blue collar workers we are human...we bleed red...we are americans.....we are here..we always have been..always will be.. we are. We do and have everything you do except one thing, the right to marry. We will in time, have that right. It will happen. maybe not in my life time, but it will happen.
What's ';un-American';, Jacob, is refusing people's rights based on their sexual orientation. Here I thought you were a free country. Are you going to deny black people's rights too?
If you're so uncomfortable with gay marriage don't have one.
You can vote against gay marriage as many times as you want.
Because it will be made legal as soon as the federal government finally discovers that it's banning is discrimination.
Umm.. we won't give up because its not right for people to force their beliefs on us to stop us from marrying the one we love just as everyone else does. We will fight for our equal rights until we get them because everyone is equal and hell we deserve the same rights!!!!!
I was pretty sure it was doing ok in a few states now, like Iowa and Massachusetts. I'm pretty sure regardless of what other people do or think, we will never give up and never surrender our constant struggle.
People have been struggling with creeping gay marriage for thousands of years. The issue has been coming %26amp; going for thousands of years. It's nothing new. Sort of like global warming.
You know this is going to go to the Supreme Court, and when it does, and you LOSE, none of those losses will matter.
ESAD.
It's very strange that USA claims to be the freedom country, but why no freedom for Gays??...
I think you should give up and do like what here in Norway we did. LET GAY PEOPLE MARRY, HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS..SIMPLE AS THAT!!
Yeah, slavery in the South was the same way.
The ';majority'; is not always correct, and the rights of minorities must be protected.
As many as it takes until we hav freedom. There will always be people fighting for freedom, always. It's the hypocrites who oppress that have to be afraid.
How many times will gay people win the right to equal rights before homophobes give up?
It's a two way street, stupid.
until people wake up to themselves and realise that gay people should have the same rights as everyone else and let us marry if we want to!
they won't. they're convinced it will work as long as you give 'em time. give it up bud, time to find a new cause. that goes both ways.
There is no quitting. Especially in the face of brute majoritarianism and cheating.
Gay people don't give up easily. We are actually very strong and good fighters. In case you haven't noticed.
Wait a second, didn't there used to be 50 states?
And no. We will never give up.
Get lost you troll.
until they have equal rights.
WE THE PEOPLE includes Gays,,,,
,are you saying Gays are not people,,,
,surely not ????
how many whites in the south would've voted for civil right for blacks??? newton's law on opposite reaction
we won't give up until we prevail.
Yep, the only way it ever makes it through is when the government forces it into law without allowing the people to vote on it. How un-American is that?
AS many as it takes.
They need to go back into the closet.
Hopefully not too long, I'm getting tired of hearing about it
What's the name of the beauty pageant contestant who says marriage is between a dude n' chick?
Is it true that she may have lost for honestly expressing her views. I hope the damn liberals haven't so permeated main-stream society w/ they're sodomite-loving rhetoric, that people can no longer express an opposing view w/out being labeled a hater. What say you?
P.S. It's Adam n' Eve, not Adam n' Steve!What's the name of the beauty pageant contestant who says marriage is between a dude n' chick?
Her name is Carrie Prejean and I think that this situation has certainly made her the winner in my mind. I don't know the name of the girl who won...What's the name of the beauty pageant contestant who says marriage is between a dude n' chick?
i think she was the miss california candidate
and she probably lost because in order to be miss universe you need to have the whole package, which means looks and being smart.
she obviously isnt very smart as a smart girl would have given a more diplomatic answer to a question like that, knowing how controversial it was.
I don't recall her name, but isn't it nice to hear someone stand for her belief? Maybe she would have won if she had answered differently, but she's a winner in my book. We need to hear more of that kind of honesty.
yeah that gay guy got pissed when she didn't agree with him so he failed her.
I like dude n' chick.makeup
P.S. It's Adam n' Eve, not Adam n' Steve!What's the name of the beauty pageant contestant who says marriage is between a dude n' chick?
Her name is Carrie Prejean and I think that this situation has certainly made her the winner in my mind. I don't know the name of the girl who won...What's the name of the beauty pageant contestant who says marriage is between a dude n' chick?
i think she was the miss california candidate
and she probably lost because in order to be miss universe you need to have the whole package, which means looks and being smart.
she obviously isnt very smart as a smart girl would have given a more diplomatic answer to a question like that, knowing how controversial it was.
I don't recall her name, but isn't it nice to hear someone stand for her belief? Maybe she would have won if she had answered differently, but she's a winner in my book. We need to hear more of that kind of honesty.
yeah that gay guy got pissed when she didn't agree with him so he failed her.
I like dude n' chick.
Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
For centuries, people had married those who had been designated by their families. The modern myth of ';romantic love'; didn't develop until the 17th century, and is an affront to the centuries of marriage tradition. Everyone knows that marriage is intended to begin not for such trivial reasons as love, but for the more important reasons of family relationships, money, and transferring property.
I think we should have a constitutional amendment banning all marriages that are not arranged by families to end this abomination that sickos call ';love';.Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
Yes, that is correct. Very good point. That's the thing with religious extremist though. They only want those traditions respected they care aboutIs marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
Most people that marry for ';LOVE'; are really marrying for ';LUST';. Lust is putting your fantasies on some object you don't know. Most people originally are dating in lust %26amp; show the other person what they think will keep them coming back. So neither person get to KNOW the other person, therefore, Lust continues. They get married to an unknown person %26amp; in about 5 years discover if they are in LOVE. It takes time to know someone. Love takes knowing them.
The reason most gays want marriage to be legal is to raid the tax benefits and add their high risk partners onto your insurance so that we may all pay higher rates for their greed and lack of Intelligent lifestyle choices.
I think we should have a constitutional amendment banning all marriages that are not arranged by families to end this abomination that sickos call ';love';.Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
Yes, that is correct. Very good point. That's the thing with religious extremist though. They only want those traditions respected they care aboutIs marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
Most people that marry for ';LOVE'; are really marrying for ';LUST';. Lust is putting your fantasies on some object you don't know. Most people originally are dating in lust %26amp; show the other person what they think will keep them coming back. So neither person get to KNOW the other person, therefore, Lust continues. They get married to an unknown person %26amp; in about 5 years discover if they are in LOVE. It takes time to know someone. Love takes knowing them.
The reason most gays want marriage to be legal is to raid the tax benefits and add their high risk partners onto your insurance so that we may all pay higher rates for their greed and lack of Intelligent lifestyle choices.
Marriage...?
I heard after 7 years of being boyfriend and grilfriend, the couple is legally married? ANyone heard something like this?Marriage...?
What you are referring to is a common law marriage. This is two people who live together and put themselves forward as a married couple although no actual ceremony has been done. Some states recognize a common law marriage and other don't.Marriage...?
you have to be an adult, living together...and its not legal in all states..its called common law marriage!!! so if you are a kid 0-17 it doesnt apply to you...
In some states, I think, if you live together for a certain amount of time you're considered common-law husband and wife. I could be wrong, though.
It depends on the state you live in most states donot recognize common law marriages.I know awhile ago in the state of oklahoma where I live they use to recognize it if you lived together for 10 years.
no. not true.
no they can be considered engaged.
but without the actual ceremony and papers signed,
they are not a married couple to the government!
=/
No...
engagment is necessary...
what you're referring to is called common law marriage, it's a rather gray area. it can entitle a woman to alimony in the advent of a breakup. but is NOT a marriage in the conventional way
in some states, if you live together for 10 years you become legally married by law....Not all states (like NY) have this law and the laws may vary from state to state. But you actually have to live together in the same house/apartment for the duration of that time, not just be boyfriend/girlfriend:)
the only way that you can be legally married in the eyes of the govn't is a) get married in some form of ceremony with someone who has the power to legally marry you, ie. pastor or justice of the peace. or b) live with someone for more than 3 months- then you are considered common- law and have all the legal rights that a married couple has.
You might be thinking of ';common-law marriage.'; They may be able to have certain specific legal priviledges, but not the full rights of a married couple.
What you are referring to is a common law marriage. This is two people who live together and put themselves forward as a married couple although no actual ceremony has been done. Some states recognize a common law marriage and other don't.Marriage...?
you have to be an adult, living together...and its not legal in all states..its called common law marriage!!! so if you are a kid 0-17 it doesnt apply to you...
In some states, I think, if you live together for a certain amount of time you're considered common-law husband and wife. I could be wrong, though.
It depends on the state you live in most states donot recognize common law marriages.I know awhile ago in the state of oklahoma where I live they use to recognize it if you lived together for 10 years.
no. not true.
no they can be considered engaged.
but without the actual ceremony and papers signed,
they are not a married couple to the government!
=/
No...
engagment is necessary...
what you're referring to is called common law marriage, it's a rather gray area. it can entitle a woman to alimony in the advent of a breakup. but is NOT a marriage in the conventional way
in some states, if you live together for 10 years you become legally married by law....Not all states (like NY) have this law and the laws may vary from state to state. But you actually have to live together in the same house/apartment for the duration of that time, not just be boyfriend/girlfriend:)
the only way that you can be legally married in the eyes of the govn't is a) get married in some form of ceremony with someone who has the power to legally marry you, ie. pastor or justice of the peace. or b) live with someone for more than 3 months- then you are considered common- law and have all the legal rights that a married couple has.
You might be thinking of ';common-law marriage.'; They may be able to have certain specific legal priviledges, but not the full rights of a married couple.
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