Tuesday, August 24, 2010

Why is sex before marriage such a big deal?

I don't see why it is such a big deal if both parties are comfortable with that level of intimacy and use protection. Nobody is getting hurt. Especially if neither party is religious.





I will reserve my loyalty, love, etc for my husband - my virginity is something I didn't really care about. Sex is fun and hurts no one if precautions are taken.





Your thoughts?Why is sex before marriage such a big deal?
See, you are a very level-headed person. But there are a lot of people who are ';saving themselves'; who insist that you are either a virgin or a ****. And that's totally not fair, and therefore people who choose not to wait feel the need to defend themselves. And there are other people who choose not to wait, and call anyone who does wait prudes, etc. And so they feel the need to defend themselves too.


It's basically all about the vicious, endless cycle of close-mindedness.


I agree with you. It's a personal decision, and no decision is any better than the other. Why is sex before marriage such a big deal?
Some religions dont have sex before marriage simply because it says so in the bible, or whatever book they use.





However there are some other good reasons. Your virginity is something that you can only give away once, and once its gone you cant have it back. Many people regret their first time. Also its the ultimate expression of love, and if marriage is simply a piece of paper, what else is there to say that thats the most special person whos ever been in your life?


Also statistically, couples who haven't lived together or slept together first have a way lower divorce rate than others.


And how cool would it be to be able to say to your spouse ';I saved myself for you';?
Nothing is ';wrong'; with it.


However how many unplanned pregnancies are happening, how many sex viruses are there......


This myth of marriage before sex is a way to control the population, mainly are kids from running around like animals breeding with everything that moves, like what is going on.


Protection does not always work, neither does marriage.....





I feel this is for the children out there.
Well there's a lot of reasons why it's a big deal.


You could contract tons of Std's. The protection could just not be effective. If the person dumps you, or just wanted sex in the first place, then that leaves you with a lot of emotional baggage. Purity is something this world is shying away from, and there are many consequences to go along with that. Sex should be saved for marriage. It's what God intended.
because its a religious thing. and our nation was founded on religion so its kind of ingrained in us that sex before marriage is bad.


its also a lot easier to tell someone not to do something than to tell them they can do it but there are certain rules they need to follow to be safe. for some reason, even though theres all kinds of sex education, people are still getting pregnant and spreading STDs. dont get me wrong, im not advocating abstinence by any means. but i think sex before marriage is so taboo because parents dont want their kids getting stds and getting pregnant.
My reasons aren't religious, I've just seen what it's done to the people closest to me and how much it hurt them.


My boyfriend lost his virginity to his first girlfriend when he was young, and she broke up with him soon after to go back to her ex. It still hurts him to this day.


My good friend had the same thing happen to her, except she was the rebound relationship.


I don't want to end up the same way.
everyone has different opinions. i think that sex is something you should do with someone you love, but that doesn't mean you have to be married to them. however, lots of people see their virginity as something special only their husband or wife deserves. also, a lot of people see it as a religious/moral issue
If he doesn't respect you enough to keep sex within marriage and marriage only, then what precedent is there that he'll be faithful? If it's more important for him to get his sexual kicks than for him to permanently establish your relationship, what do you think he's going to pursue when your marriage hits a rough spot?
you want my thoughts? if its only ever between the two ppl then theres nothing to compare it to and it doesnt complicate things. Im not judging anyone thats ever done it, nor holding against them. I'm only suggesting that you cant miss what you dont have.





If you never ate fast foods and someone says ';you dont know what you're missing'; ...... they're absolutely right and it wouldnt bother you.......... but if you ';try before you buy'; all the time, its fact that it can complicate it..... sorry but it is fact
iv just always thought it was just Special and although its not a big deal to me ether me and my husband stopped having sex 2 weeks before the wedding just for the anticipation of the whole thing and it was awesome when we finally meet again and please remember its your choice not mom or dads i hope i helped clueless
I think of it as more than just sex. I think of it as making love and why would you want to make love with someone say who is a friend with benefits? I think the greatest gift one can give someone they love is themselves. I guess I just have more self esteem and dont feel I need to prove anything by sleeping around.
Yes it is a big Deal


Bcz if u have sex before marring then ur *** will became Big and it will become a big deal





and then when u get marriage the deal of ur *** is going 2 be so big that your husband will know that u have a deal





and then u will realize that it is a biog deal
It's not a big deal unless it's important to you.





Personal choice, certainly not a societal standard.
you might get pregnant and then the other guy usually dumps you


and that means you have to take care of the baby yourself...


Watch Juno.
it isnt, just another excuse for religion to suck the fun out of everything, its personal opinion and I agree with you.
Apart from religious reasons, ';saving it'; can make it more meaningful when you finally do. just a thought, I don't disagree or agree personally with sex before marriage
Most of the time because parents want their children safe, and don't want their child pregnant before they're safely in another persons' hands.
Depends ! Casual encounters are not on the same level as intimacy between people who are really close. You can't be close to a whole bunch of people can you ?
religion, that's what it is, that's why society makes it a big deal
its nice that someone would wait until being your spouse to loose their virginity and it can have meaning.





it has been symbolic and meaningful
I agree with you, but having sex with only your husband is a very romantic concept. Just not -that- important.
I agree with you.
I agree with you 100%

What are elements that contributed to robert brownings career besides his marriage to elizabeh browning?

I need two. Im trying to do an outline for a research paper on him. I can do the research, Im just having difficulty with my thesis statement.


Thank you.What are elements that contributed to robert brownings career besides his marriage to elizabeh browning?
If you're asking for his influences then I have a few. He was influenced by the poetry of Byron and Shelley, whom he read in 1826. He briefly took on Shelley's beliefs of vegitarianism and atheism.


His friendship with Sarah Flower illustrates his high regard for women and provided inspiration for his first published poem 'Pauline'.


A somewhat medieval romance of Knighthood can be connected with his poem 'Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came'.


Charles Darwin's 'The Origin of the Species'. Browning sought to modify the reaction of the masses to Darwin's book indirectly in some of his works.


He was also influenced by works of Shakespeare.
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  • Can a marriage be annulled if one party of that marriage is deported?

    There is one party who is currently with a third party and want to get married, but the one party is married to a second party who was deported.Can a marriage be annulled if one party of that marriage is deported?
    i'm pretty sure it can

    Why do governments and other institutions have anything to do with marriage; why not deregulate it?

    I fail to see what justified authority the government has over marriage. It seems as though it is an institutionalized form of coercion from a doctrinal history, and a hold-over from when and where the Church was the state. I don't see where or how the government should intercede upon what people do peaceably and voluntarily in their domestic lives.Why do governments and other institutions have anything to do with marriage; why not deregulate it?
    It IS a throwback leftover from when government and religion were one and the same.. Church and state really haven't been separated, so many laws are religiously based...


    The government has no right to intercede upon peaceful people.Why do governments and other institutions have anything to do with marriage; why not deregulate it?
    Yeah the first three answers are right, although I think ';taxes'; is an unnecessary euphemism. It's clearly so the government can have control over the situation. You see love is a scary thing for a government. They see it as a conspiracy against them. Something else coming in between the government and it's citizen is an enemy. Enemies need to be controlled. In a capitalist democracy, money is the controlling force in most situations.





    There's an easy way round it though. Just get a marriage that the government doesn't recognise. Hell, I'll even do the service for you, if you want. We can do it online :)
    It's about inheritance, taxes, and property rights.





    It is also about determining who has the right to make medical and/or financial decisions should the person become unable and not have otherwise provided for the aforementioned with a power of attorney.
    1.Taxes


    2.Creates jobs ie:marriage counselors, lawyers, mediators, authors


    3.Creates a standard that is so stressful that it leads to a failure rate of more than 50%
    1) Property rights. 2) Taxes.

    What makes a guy marriage material or not?

    A lack of a self preservation instinct and a tendancy to fall for peer pressure.What makes a guy marriage material or not?
    There is a lot that goes into being ';marriage material'; (as in, someone a woman would want to marry).





    1- Stable job/no criminal activity


    2- He is capable of having just one woman


    3- He shares common goals and dreams with you


    4- You are attracted to each other


    5- He is mature enough to admit when he makes mistakes, and smart enough to get over them and move on. What makes a guy marriage material or not?
    I don't know about other women, but I pay attention to my sense of whether a guy just wants me for *** or if he genuinely likes me and wants to take things further. Obviously, the second guy is marriage material.





    If you're not ready, then don't ';try'; to be ready. It's just comes naturally, or people will sense you being ';fake'; or ';trying too hard.';








    24 is very young, IMO. I'm 25 and I'm not ready for marriage.





    Don't look for love or try to meet someone's standards. Wait for love to come to you, and it will.





    Rushing into marriage is the worst thing you can do.
    Well, if you have no desire to ever marry, then you wouldn't be marriage material. But then, you don't want to be, so it's not a problem.





    You have no obligation to marry. Since you don't want to marry, you're doing everyone a favor by not doing so. Nor is there a law against someone marrying later than their friends. If you change your mind at, say 32, no harm, no foul.





    As for marriage material, it varies, as not all women value exactly the same traits.
    Its an interesting question - and one that cannot be answered by any list you provide. What makes one a good husband for one woman will make him a bad husband for another.





    Finding an individual with common interests and a similar attitude toward a life together is the best start I can imagine. The rest is window dressing, and will not be important when the big issues come along in life...
    According to the doctoral thesis of Dr. Amy Rogers-Bauer, women tend to marry non-risk takers who can support them--but they fool around with the dangerous guy. other reports find facial features predict that women tend to have successful long term relations with men with rounded (full) facial features, but are likely to cheat on them with men with thin angular features.
    I don't think anybody can actually determine exact ';marriage material.'; I think the person themselves have to determine whether or not they are marriage material, and those decisions, are based solely on how they feel about themselves.
    1) Having a good job (being a doctor or lawyer helps.)


    2) Being nice and kind


    3) Being physically in shape


    4) Being romantic


    5) Caring about the woman and asking how her day went, what her hobbies are, etc.
    I love and respect women. I however do advice any man to not get married intill the divorce and family court systems become fair to both sexes.

    How long does it take to get a green card thru marriage?

    This is a question for anyone (particularly NY residents) who has sent off their application package for a green card thru marriage to a US citizen.


    Once you sent off the application, from sending off the initial forms and going through the interview process and everything how long did it take to recieve your green card?


    ThanksHow long does it take to get a green card thru marriage?
    I filed paperwork for Adjustment of Status through marriage to a US citizen in November 2006. We then received a Notice Date of 21 December from the USCIS. According to my wife's Congressperson the application should be reviewed within 90 days of that Notice Date. They will then either ask for more information or else will give you a date for the interview. I have friends who have gone through the same process and she received her Green Card within one week of the interview. Unfortunately, it is a slow process so be patient. If the 90 days have passed and you haven't heard anything contact your Congressperson and ask them to enquire with the USCIS on your behalf.How long does it take to get a green card thru marriage?
    Five months more or less.
    NY is particularly slow. Up to 2 years. But background chacks could delay everything. So you cannot predict stuff here.





    Anyway, go to www visajourney com. They have archives of statistics.
    About long enough for your ';fiance'; to transport thier bomb making materials, becuase they just love you soooooooooooooo much....

    How to write a SWOT analysis if u working as a marriage planner and planning every thing on your frnd marriag?

    this is an assignment i have 2 write a report to prepare an event.How to write a SWOT analysis if u working as a marriage planner and planning every thing on your frnd marriag?
    do you know what a SWOT analysis is four columns top of each column


    you put Strengths Weaknesses Opportunities and Threats then just write down your thoughts on each category come on don,t let this get you down Big Mac .How to write a SWOT analysis if u working as a marriage planner and planning every thing on your frnd marriag?
    Might also wish to include in your presentation a PESTEL exercise too.


    Things that could affect your plan and need to be taken into account:


    P = Political changes in government in UK or EU;


    E= Environmental or Economic changes (Green stuff or like now a Recession);


    S= Social changes in attitudes or popularity what is fashionable;


    T= Technological changes - remember Betamax and Tapes before CD's


    L= Legislation cahnges stuff that might be affected by taxation, health %26amp; safety and made illegal etc


    a Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats schedule will be an absolute doddle.


    P.S. Rememeber Murphy's Law: If something can go wrong then it will!

    How ugly was your marriage before you got out?

    Like, how bad did you let it get before you said it wasn't worth it anymore?How ugly was your marriage before you got out?
    If your marriage isn't making you a better person, the arguments are more frequent, you've tried marriage counseling and that didn't work - it's time to say it isn't worth staying in the relationship anymore.How ugly was your marriage before you got out?
    so much drinking from him then it led to beatings ,,it really freaked me out,he took a phone and beat me in the head and i had 7 stitches,,and it must have knocked me out,,cause when i woke up no one was there,i was laying on the floor in blood and throwing up from the brain concussion,so he obviously thought he killed me and ran,so after that i got the hell out of there,took the kids and made it on our own,,my kids weren't going to lose their mother,they needed me and i was going to make sure of that..
    When she started to tie me up and whip my a.s.s. with a belt, I said f.u.c.k. this s.h.i.t. and moved out.
    well she tried to kill me,now that's as ugly as it gets
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  • Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?

    For centuries, people had married those who had been designated by their families. The modern myth of ';romantic love'; didn't develop until the 17th century, and is an affront to the centuries of marriage tradition. Everyone knows that marriage is intended to begin not for such trivial reasons as love, but for the more important reasons of family relationships, money, and transferring property.





    I think we should have a constitutional amendment banning all marriages that are not arranged by families to end this abomination that sickos call ';love';.Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
    Yes, that is correct. Very good point. That's the thing with religious extremist though. They only want those traditions respected they care about

    Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?

    For centuries, people had married those who had been designated by their families. The modern myth of ';romantic love'; didn't develop until the 17th century, and is an affront to the centuries of marriage tradition. Everyone knows that marriage is intended to begin not for such trivial reasons as love, but for the more important reasons of family relationships, money, and transferring property.





    I think we should have a constitutional amendment banning all marriages that are not arranged by families to end this abomination that sickos call ';love';.Is marrying for love a slap in the face of traditional marriage?
    Yes, that is correct. Very good point. That's the thing with religious extremist though. They only want those traditions respected they care about

    Age not good for marriage in Chinese tradition?

    I am a chinese living in Indonesia. In my town, people say that it's not good to get married at the age of 29. (The age here refers to the chinese age, and related to shio, so for example, if you are born in 1981 and your shio is rooster, thus in 2009 your age is considered 29 instead of 28).


    Do you all have ever heard about this? What about in the other Asian countries? Do chinese people there also have this kind of opinion? Need your opinion and view.Age not good for marriage in Chinese tradition?
    Both of my parents were chinese who lived in Indonesia, but they both emigrated to the United States as adults. My mom was a 7th generation chinese living in Jakarta. My dad was a 2nd generation chinese living in Medan. He got married at age 29 (my mom was 25). They just celebrated their 40th wedding anniversary, and are happily married still. My brother and I are both doctors.





    Chinese have so many superstitions and traditions. But rarely are they based on anything real. If you've found the right person, and are at a good time and place to get married, then go for it. Who cares about your age?Age not good for marriage in Chinese tradition?
    I think that you're buying into superstition. I'm a Monkey and my husband is a Horse. We're not supposed to go well together. But we do... very very well.





    Whether your marriage works or not is based on communication, willingness to solve problems, as well as picking the right person to begin with. If it doesn't work, Zodiac is a lazy excuse. When marriages don't work it's because YOU did something wrong, not because you were born in a particular year. You are responsible for the outcome of your own life.
    I agree with Politically Correct.





    Don't worry about the traditions. The world is getting all mixed up anyways. There will always be people who will talk and try to ruin your day.





    You just have to steer away from those and do what feels right for you.





    29 is a really great age to get married. My friends are all thinking about getting married around that age, if not older. And some of them are chinese/vietnamese. The life span of people is increrasing and the middle age is shifting. So the ';traditional age'; doesn't matter.





    Hope I helped.





    Best Wishes =)

    How does common law marriage work in texas?

    i was with my ex for almost six years and we lived together for at least four of those years. we bought a home together and a motorcycle. do we have to go through a divorce process?How does common law marriage work in texas?
    kind of because assets have to be split.





    So I found this site and tells you three things that have to be done for it to be common law marriage and if you did this than you know your answer.How does common law marriage work in texas?
    It is up to you. If you can agree on a split of assets and settle things on your own, you do not need a divorce.. after you seperate the common law marriage will dissolve on it own.


    If you have disagreements however, you do have the option to file for divorce and get a court ordered settlement.
    No, you do not need to divorce since nothing was made official. Unless you got a declaration of informal marriage, which it does not sound like is the case, then you were never married for purposes of state or federal law.
    did you call yourself husband and wife with a witness? if so, i think you're common law married but im not sure about the time required. If you didn't represent yourselves as husband and wife, you're good.
    you two have to use the same last name present yourself as married and live together for six months to make it legal you go down to the lacal courthouse and fill out a paper with six or seven questions

    I am on F1 visa and married a US citizen before coming here. Is there any implication to register marriage?

    My university is far from my husband place so we dont live together can this make case complicated?I am on F1 visa and married a US citizen before coming here. Is there any implication to register marriage?
    If you are inquiring about applying for permanent residence


    based upon the marriage, there may be a complication if you can not demonstrate that you have a legitimate


    marriage.I am on F1 visa and married a US citizen before coming here. Is there any implication to register marriage?
    When you applied for your F-1 visa, were you married to a U.S. citizen? If so, how did you answer the question in the visa application about relatives in the U.S.?





    Question 37 is: Are Any of The Following Persons in The U.S., or Do They Have U.S. Legal Permanent Residence or U.S. Citizenship?





    If you were married when you applied for the visa, how did you answer that question? If you indicated that you had a U.S. husband, then you should be trouble free. If you failed to reveal your marriage, it could be said that you obtained the visa by fraud.





    If you were single when you applied for the visa, did you reveal that you had a U.S. citizen fiance? Hopefully, you did.





    As for ';registering'; the marriage, with whom? The school? Immigration? Your government? Wal-Mart? Who did you want to register your marriage with?
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  • Why does Islam permit marriage at such a young age?

    According to some islamic country's, children are being married off by their parents as young as 10yrs, but the legal age is suppose to be 15. If that is the case, why so young? And why is the necessary?Why does Islam permit marriage at such a young age?
    ► In today's world, there are not 10 year olds being married off. But there are others who engage in marriage in their mid-to-late teen years, just like myself.





    ► Centuries ago, this used to be a common practice with all people, it was not about Islaam, all practiced it: Jews, Christians, Pagans, etc.





    ► There is no age point or restriction in Islaam, but only that the bride and groom are both mature and have passed the age of puberty.








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    ^_^Why does Islam permit marriage at such a young age?
    I wonder if ';being married off'; at age 10 refers to actually being married the way we in the west understand it. It could possibly mean that they are betrothed (perhaps legally married), but the girl doesn't actually go live with her husband until a later time, perhaps a pre-arranged age, or when she begins her menstrual cycle (thereby ';becoming a woman';). This may still be young, though.





    Keep in mind, too, that it's not just Muslims who do this. I believe some of the Hindu people in India do the same, as well as tribes in Africa and probably South America, too. It's just that Islam is so much in the news, and Americans love to find reasons to point a finger.





    We don't need to go back very many generations in the Western European heritage to see the same thing taking place.





    Maybe those cultures who still practice this need to ';get with the times,'; but you can't just flip a switch and have everyone slough off their culture and traditions overnight. These things take time. The information age will move it along. Also, as this practice ceases, other social systems have to be developed to support the education and upbringing of girls, and their new role in society. Again, it won't happen overnight.





    Unfortunately, many good and valuable things will be lost from many cultures along the way, by the same process.
    Unfortunately, these countries have not bothered to move on with the world. Quran has given us guidance to, how to live our lives but also has told us to not to forget the worldly life as well as religious responsibilities. Some people take the law from that time literally.





    The law of marriage in Islam is that the girl should be able to know from right to wrong and have the power and right to say NO. The couple do not need the consent to marry but some country consider their culture more interesting then the religious believes.





    It is not necessary and I Absolutely agree with you that 10yrs old is far too young. Even 15yrs in my eyes is still too young. These days, girls don't think about marriage till in their late 20s if not early 30s.
    Dear as you said, that is according to some Islamic Countries or the so called Muslims or even the Islamic Law by many so called Muslims.





    The Quraan says totally something else.





    ';...and because they spend of their property(for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding for those absent what Allah hath guarded...';(4:34)





    Could a girl at the age of 15 be able to take care of her husband's business, let alone a house?





    I doubt that.





    The word is obedient and mother and sister are not obedient of son or brother, respectively. But a husband/father Spends his property, hence only daughter and wife can be obedient. And if a father weds his 15 year old daughter, she will become a wife, thus she will have to guard, which obiviously she won't be able to when her husband is at journey/war.





    And THAT my dear is what Quraan says.
    Because muhammad set the evil example by marrying Ayesha when he was 53 and she was 6. According to islamic historians muhammad waited until she was 9 to have sex with her, and since muslims have been fooled into thinking muhammad was a prophet they believe God approved of this forced marriage and use it as justification for what civilized people define as child rape.
    One cannot use the modern terms of marriage to compare.





    In the USA, before modern times. It was very common for a man or woman to be married by 15.





    Native Americans consider a boy a man at 14 and he begins to search for his wife.





    This is just two examples. Just because modern times says 18 is the legal age. That does mean that is the age elsewhere in the world or even the USA's own past.
    Remove Muhammad and you remove Islam. Everything in Islam traces back to Muhammad. There is not a single law in Islam that was given by Muhammad that restrained or inhibited Muhammad in any way. This equates to Islam being the cult of Muhammad. By about and for Muhammad.





    Since Muhammad was a demonstrated pedophile, it stands that the cult allows pedophilia. In this, it's not unique, as many cults are established for this very thing:





    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/arc…


    http://www.cultnews.com/?cat=105


    http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic…





    Of course, people in Islamic countries never hear about these sorts of cults, so they don't realize that Islam is the purest definition of a cult.
    Child marriages is a worldwide phenomenon and not connected with religion as people of all religious backgrounds partake in child marriages.





    Some facts.......


    According to UNICEF, 40% of child marriages occur in India.


    http://www.hindu.com/2009/01/18/stories/…


    These are largely Hindus!!!!!! And yes child marriage is illegal in India.





    If you want some data on where child marriage occurs, here is a link with a MAP. Take note that the whole of India is marked out, as well as [christian] central Latin America, some parts of SE Asia, as well as several parts of sub-Saharan Africa:


    http://www.forwarduk.org.uk/key-issues/c…





    Situation in sub-Saharan Africa:


    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0…





    In some parts of rural Ethiopia 40% of girls are apparently married by 15 or younger. From the same link: as quoted by a villager called Mamo: ';Even at the age of three, when the child is on the backside of her mother, at that time, marriage ceremony will be done,'; Mamo says: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story…


    These are Christians!!!!





    So you see ----- people of all religious persuasions. Why are you questioning Muslims alone therefore? Do some research please as your question has clearly biased overtones and shows a lack of proper research moreover !!!





    Another article on child marriage worldwide:


    http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia…





    ❀ Peace.





    addendum:


    Historically in the uk, the 1753 Marriage Act for England %26amp; Wales had set the age at 12 for a girl and 14 for a boy. This could have been open to abuse! http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia…


    This did not change until 1929 when the legal minimum was set to 16 for both.





    In the olden days, going back say 1000-2000 years, the life expectancy was generally quite low, perhaps you were fortunate indeed if you made it to 40 years old. So getting married 'younger' was perhaps necessary for successful procreation, amongst other things (to get married for). But times have changed obviously in the west at least and our societies have adapted to these changes accordingly. Such as youngsters getting an education, wanting to go to university, establish a career, and life expectancy having increased substantially.
    because these old dirty men cant handle a woman with a brain and the experience that comes with a similar age lol





    they like to control both contol and manipulate so a young 10yr old girl is the perfect victim to satisfy there sexually predetorial needs i guess
    Live your own life man .... don't get disturb by other customs...... 99% Muslim do marry in elder age..... Islam prohibits sexual relationship in younger age ... that is why marraige is allowed so as to avoid this to happen....... you foolish people don't have that much brain to understand... very sorry for you.
    ..... a faithful may of spreading religion ... by adding to their numerical numbers .... while the west is in numerical decline, because we care more for our lifestyles than future generations.


    Just look at the debt we are leaving behind for unborn generations .... the principle and interest on that debt will cripple any hope for a better life for them than us greedy baby boomers.
    Religious marriage and government marriage have nothing to dow with each other. Which is why I am so confused about religious groups fighting so hard against gay marriage.
    Hey you can use religion to justify almost anything, paedophilia, murder, rape, etc....
    I suggest you read this link





    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/…
    So that horny old men can religiously justify raping young girls.
    Because Mohammad married a nine-year-old?
    because you have massacred them and they cant afford to feed themselves

    Do I need to bring proofs of my parents' names and date of brith and place to get a marriage license?

    My fiance and I are planning on applying for a marriage license at the San Francisco City Hall then have a civil ceremony there at the same day. Do we need to show proofs of my parents' names and all in order to get a marriage license? Or do we just have to know them?Do I need to bring proofs of my parents' names and date of brith and place to get a marriage license?
    Only if your parents are both men.Do I need to bring proofs of my parents' names and date of brith and place to get a marriage license?
    if you are under 18 your parents need to appear in person if you are over 18 you just have to tell the license person the info.
    All depends on your age. If your of legal age you don't need them at all.

    How does a christian marriage go in the church?

    I mean, what happens during a marriage ceremony in the church? What does the priest say and what do the bride and groom say? Really need help!!!How does a christian marriage go in the church?
    I'm no christian but I figure you not looking for my opinion on the matter, just the simple facts....





    Most wedding ceremonies contain most of these elements:





    1. Wedding processional or entrance of the bride and groom, and wedding party if applicable


    2. Music, literature, and poetry or wedding readings from the Bible


    3. Attendants or witnesses to sign the wedding certificate or marriage license


    4. Wedding Vows


    5. Exchange of wedding rings or gifts


    6. A blessing, benediction, community commitment to support the marriage, or officiant's sanction of the marriage


    7. A first kiss as a married couple


    8. A recessional





    A basic wedding vow goes something like this:


    I, (Bride/Groom), take you (Groom/Bride), to be my (wife/husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.





    Hope this helps :o)How does a christian marriage go in the church?
    It depends on the denomination of the church. All denominations have a specific service they generally use for weddings. Look in the back of your main hymnal at your church and there should be a wedding ceremony. From there, you can either go with that one or adapt it to fit your needs.
    really depends on the specific church. essentailly though the person leading the ceremony explains what marriage is about, there is an exhange of vow (which are the promises between partners) and then the marriage is symbolised with the exchange of rings. followed by a quick kiss and its done.
    Many in YA will disagree on the definition of Church, but I can answer for the early Christian Church.





    Marriage in the Orthodox Church





    HOLY MATRIMONY is a one of the Mysteries of the Holy Orthodox Church in which a man and woman are united by the Holy Trinity. Their conjugal union is blessed by our Lord Jesus Christ through the Church. God's grace is imparted to them to live together in His love, mutually fulfilling and perfecting each other.The Mystery of marriage of the Holy Orthodox Church is steeped in ritual and symbolism. Each of the acts has special meaning and significance.





    The rings:


    The rings are blessed by the priest who takes them in his hand and, making the sign of the cross over the heads of bride and groom, says: ';The servant of God ...is betrothed to the maid of God ... in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.';The couple then exchange the rings, taking the bride's ring and placing it on the groom's finger and vice-versa. The rings, of course, are the symbol of betrothal and their exchange signifies that in married life the weaknesses of the one partner will be compensated for by the strength of the other, the imperfections of one by the perfections of the other. By themselves, the newly-betrothed are incomplete: together they are made perfect. Thus the exchange of rings gives expression to the fact that the spouses in marriage will constantly be complementing each other. Each will be enriched by the union.


    The candles





    The Wedding service begins immediately following the Betrothal Service. The bride and groom are handed candles which they hold throughout the service. The candles are like the lamps of the five wise maidens of the Bible, who because they had enough oil in them, were able to receive the Bridegroom, Christ, when He came in the darkness of the night. The candles symbolize the spiritual willingness of the couple to receive Christ, Who will bless them through this Mystery.





    The joining of the right hands:


    The right hand of the bride and groom are joined when the priest reads the prayer that beseeches God to ';join these thy servants, unite them in one mind and one flesh.'; The hands are kept joined throughout the service to symbolize the ';oneness'; of the couple





    The crowning:


    The service of the Crowning, which follows, is the climax of the Wedding service. The crowns are signs of the glory and honor with which God crowns them during the Mystery. The groom and the bride are crowned as the king and queen of their own little kingdom, the home - domestic church, which they will rule with fear of God,wisdom,justice and integrity.When the crowning takes place the priest, taking the crowns and holding them above the couple, says:';The servants of God, (names), are crowned in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.'; The crowns used in the Orthodox wedding service refer to the crowns of martyrdom since every true marriage involves immeasurable self-sacrifice on both sides.





    The common cup';


    The service of crowning is followed by the reading of the Epistle and the Gospel. The Gospel reading describes the marriage at Cana of Galilee which was attended and blessed by our Lord and Saviour Christ, and for which He reserved His first miracle. There He converted the water into better wine and give of it to the newlyweds, in remembrance of this blessing, wine is given the couple. This is the ';common cup'; of better life denoting the mutual sharing of joy and sorrow, the token of a life of harmony. The drinking of wine from the common cup serves to impress upon the couple that from that moment on they will share everything in life, joys as well as sorrows, and that they are to ';bear one another's burdens.'; Their joys will be doubled and their sorrows halved because they will be shared.





    The walk:


    The priest then leads the bride and groom in a circle around the table on which are placed the Gospel and the Cross, the one containing the Word of God, the other being the symbol of our redemption by our Saviour Jesus Christ. The husband and wife are taking their first steps as a married couple, and the Church, in the person of the priest, leads them in the way they must walk. The way is symbolized by the circle at the center of which are the Gospel and the Cross of our Lord. This expresses the fact that the way of Christian living is a perfect orbit around the center of life, who is Jesus Christ our Lord.During this walk around the table a hymn its sung to the Holy Martyrs reminding the newly married couple of the sacrificial love they are to have for each other in marriage - a love that seeks not its own but is willing to sacrifice its all for the one loved.





    The blessing:


    The couple return to their places and the priest, blessing the groom, says, ';Be thou magnified, O bridegroom, as Abraham, and blessed as Isaac, and increased as Jacob, walking in peace and working in righteousness the commandments of God.'; And blessing the bride
    The main thing is ';I Do';. Not all churches have priests, only some of the more pious high-minded denominations. Not all priests however, are pious or high-minded.





    Google- marriage vows in the Church.





    Why so cheerful today Welk, are we feeling the Christmas Spirit?
    Why do you assume there is a ';priest';.... there are no priests in The True Church... except for Jesus The Christ who is The High Priest as The Head of The Church... There is great variety in how marriage ceremonies are done in the many different Congregations of The True Church... All involve a public statement of commitment to strive to live according to God's Word and Will.
    Promises of fidelity and love are exchanged.


    There are certain legal words that have to be shared.


    Any church website will allow you to download the words of a wedding ceremony.


    Or just go to your nearest Church and ask.

    Do you think that there is a crisis regarding Family and Marriage?How is the condition in Turkiye?

    In Europe the divorce rates are really high (alomost 1 divorce every 3 marriages)


    In Greece things are better but not good enough (divorcing rate is almost 20%)





    How do you feel about this?





    What may be the reasons for it?Do you think that there is a crisis regarding Family and Marriage?How is the condition in Turkiye?
    I want to touch on a different aspect. Low divorce rates don't necessarily mean that people are happy in their marriages. Traditionally, Turkish women are very submissive, and they don't have much of a choice. They don't even accept that they're unhappy. They accept things as they are, and they think they're born to make their husband happy. So, divorce rates maybe telling us something about the role of women too.Do you think that there is a crisis regarding Family and Marriage?How is the condition in Turkiye?
    Thank you all!





    ps. Tanju aferin! very soon you ll be able to talk Greek! hehe and I ll respond in turkish ;)tamam?

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    I wish I'll marry only once too :D


    Good luck!

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    Tamam Tolia, just you can teach me. :-)


    I can learn, I hope :-)


    I am also wish Good Luck both of you.

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    EU divorce rate is % 40 now.


    In 1990's


    Greek % 6.9


    Spain % 4.8,


    Italy % 4.7,


    US % 4.57


    Germany % 2.04,


    Turkey % 0.47


    Yes you are right. Divorce rating of the world is getting higher.


    I think we begin to eat up everything too fast.





    20 years ago I bought a cola - box , but I could not trow it to the garbage. I cut it and put my pencils in it. Every thing , even a cola box has a value at that days.


    But now. Nothing has any value even a dimond ring :)
    i think in Turkey women unemployed rate is higher than UK or other European countries. and i know many woman not confident to get divorce for this reason. some uneducated people would look divorced woman with dirty eye so it would cut down divorce rate too. that's what i think.
    Society is changing. It is not as simple as women working, gaining their economic rights, etc. The production systems and produce has changed from agricultural to industrial. You needed a large and extended family to have and govern large lands, but you don't need a family to establish and run a business. On the contrary, today's business world discourages family life.





    I cannot say I have solved the riddle, as I am not a sociologist, but these give me a hint.





    In Turkey, we are still in favor of families. Our women would rather get married and have children, than have careers. We are lucky, because the Western world will be a case study for our social decisions. I'd say, shorter and more flexible working hours, home offices would encourage women who want to work and have families at the same time. God knows, it works for me.
    I just don't want to divorce when I get married one day..





    I can't think myself alone with my 2 little children...





    My reasons for divorcing are: increase in cheating, marrying early without knowing each other well and money.
    The divorcing can be called ';crisis'; when the divorced woman doesn't have her own economical freedom(as the most of the women in T眉rkiye). Also Turkish laws aren't enough and traditions are unfortunately against the divorced women.





    The divorcing have to be a same event like marriage. If the couple can not live together anymore they have to end.





    The early marriages, fractiousness, getting bored, cheating, money problems and the parents are the main reasons for the divorces.





    Best wishes neighbour...
    Hi Neighbour ,





    How are you (Ti kanete) ? How is my Village ? :-) Did you say, my Greetings ?





    Firstly , Efheristo poli apo your writing Turkiye...





    Now, about your question;


    I found that report;


    http://www.atonet.org.tr/yeni/index.php?鈥?/a>


    But Turkish, it does not matter for you. You know Turkish like me ... Right ?





    If I translate it, it says increasing everyyear in Turkiye.


    In 1990 = 25712


    In 2004 = 88736





    Rate % 245





    And says main reason is incompatibility, lack of harmony, money etc ..





    Xeretismata apo Istanbul ,





    PS. Is there any fault in my Greek ? :-)
    Well, I think there is a problem. As hanibal said, we became consumers of everything, also love and respect.
    I'm single. the rates are correct? , I'm lucky ...I have'nt problem


    about this crisis.


    please be careful , if you are married then be happy...
    Yes, but you have to remember that our world is getting worst each decade.
    Although it's also getting worse in Turkey, I think the general picture is better than the rest of Europe as we have a strong traditional structure.





    I believe the main reason is the economical independence of women. In old times women used to swallow their husbands bad attitudes (betrayal, even violence). But now they find a lawyer and get divorced.





    What about the men? As they're feed, their clothes are washed and ironed at home, even if they find a mistress they tend to stay at home.

    What laws are there that discriminate against homosexuals, besides same sex marriage?

    What unjust laws are there? I heard something about adoption and home owning.What laws are there that discriminate against homosexuals, besides same sex marriage?
    There are adoption agencies that will not allow same-sex couples to adopt, it's true. I'm not sure about the home owning stuff. There are places that have (or had in the past) laws against sodomy and such. In the US, most states do not recognize same-sex couples meaning no tax deductions, no family benefits, and if a someone is in critical condition in a hospital a same-sex partner may not be permitted to see them if the hospital has ruled family only admittance. Finally, as stated above the US military has the ';don't ask don't tell'; policy. (I believe homosexuals are given a dishonorable discharge, but I'm not sure about this.)What laws are there that discriminate against homosexuals, besides same sex marriage?
    The remaining anti-homosexual sodomy laws have been invalidated by the 2003 U.S. Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas . It is not clear whether or how sodomy laws that apply to both homosexual and heterosexual sex are affected by Lawrence. The United States Supreme Court also implied that the age of consent must be the same for heterosexuals and homosexuals when it ordered the Kansas courts to review the constitutionality of the state's Romeo and Juliet Law.
    Well in the UK we have civil partnership which gives same sex couples the same rights as marriage, Some people still want marriage as an option though too, as marriage has bugger all to do with religion, which tends to be the reason cited.


    In the US discrimination can occur with inheritance taxes, if where only a spouse is allowed to inherit without the inheritance tax, power of attorney, visitation in hospital if only spouse and family are allowed the partner may not be allowed. You can get round these things with a lawyer, but its more money and effort than just getting married/civil partnered.
    This is a very broad question. It varies from country to country. In developed countries, the main ones are gay adoption and protection against housing and working discrimination. However, in some countries, sodomy is illegal and even worse than that, some countries if someone is found out to be gay (especially if they are a man) they will be killed.
    well here in the uk same sex marriage is legal, however it is not called marriage because marriage is defined as a man and woman being married. It is instead called a civil ceremony. (i think)
    DADT, lesbian insemenation, gay sperm and blood donation and some adoption laws in some states.
    I'm not sure! But I'd be interested in finding out
    um, none allowed in the army, but i can sort of understand that

    Do you think that there is a crisis regarding Family and Marriage?How is the condition in Turkiye?

    In Europe the divorce rates are really high (alomost 1 divorce every 3 marriages)


    In Greece things are better but not good enough (divorcing rate is almost 20%)





    How do you feel about this?





    What may be the reasons for it?Do you think that there is a crisis regarding Family and Marriage?How is the condition in Turkiye?
    I want to touch on a different aspect. Low divorce rates don't necessarily mean that people are happy in their marriages. Traditionally, Turkish women are very submissive, and they don't have much of a choice. They don't even accept that they're unhappy. They accept things as they are, and they think they're born to make their husband happy. So, divorce rates maybe telling us something about the role of women too.Do you think that there is a crisis regarding Family and Marriage?How is the condition in Turkiye?
    Thank you all!





    ps. Tanju aferin! very soon you ll be able to talk Greek! hehe and I ll respond in turkish ;)tamam?

    Report Abuse



    I wish I'll marry only once too :D


    Good luck!

    Report Abuse



    Tamam Tolia, just you can teach me. :-)


    I can learn, I hope :-)


    I am also wish Good Luck both of you.

    Report Abuse



    EU divorce rate is % 40 now.


    In 1990's


    Greek % 6.9


    Spain % 4.8,


    Italy % 4.7,


    US % 4.57


    Germany % 2.04,


    Turkey % 0.47


    Yes you are right. Divorce rating of the world is getting higher.


    I think we begin to eat up everything too fast.





    20 years ago I bought a cola - box , but I could not trow it to the garbage. I cut it and put my pencils in it. Every thing , even a cola box has a value at that days.


    But now. Nothing has any value even a dimond ring :)
    i think in Turkey women unemployed rate is higher than UK or other European countries. and i know many woman not confident to get divorce for this reason. some uneducated people would look divorced woman with dirty eye so it would cut down divorce rate too. that's what i think.
    Society is changing. It is not as simple as women working, gaining their economic rights, etc. The production systems and produce has changed from agricultural to industrial. You needed a large and extended family to have and govern large lands, but you don't need a family to establish and run a business. On the contrary, today's business world discourages family life.





    I cannot say I have solved the riddle, as I am not a sociologist, but these give me a hint.





    In Turkey, we are still in favor of families. Our women would rather get married and have children, than have careers. We are lucky, because the Western world will be a case study for our social decisions. I'd say, shorter and more flexible working hours, home offices would encourage women who want to work and have families at the same time. God knows, it works for me.
    I just don't want to divorce when I get married one day..





    I can't think myself alone with my 2 little children...





    My reasons for divorcing are: increase in cheating, marrying early without knowing each other well and money.
    The divorcing can be called ';crisis'; when the divorced woman doesn't have her own economical freedom(as the most of the women in T眉rkiye). Also Turkish laws aren't enough and traditions are unfortunately against the divorced women.





    The divorcing have to be a same event like marriage. If the couple can not live together anymore they have to end.





    The early marriages, fractiousness, getting bored, cheating, money problems and the parents are the main reasons for the divorces.





    Best wishes neighbour...
    Hi Neighbour ,





    How are you (Ti kanete) ? How is my Village ? :-) Did you say, my Greetings ?





    Firstly , Efheristo poli apo your writing Turkiye...





    Now, about your question;


    I found that report;


    http://www.atonet.org.tr/yeni/index.php?鈥?/a>


    But Turkish, it does not matter for you. You know Turkish like me ... Right ?





    If I translate it, it says increasing everyyear in Turkiye.


    In 1990 = 25712


    In 2004 = 88736





    Rate % 245





    And says main reason is incompatibility, lack of harmony, money etc ..





    Xeretismata apo Istanbul ,





    PS. Is there any fault in my Greek ? :-)
    Well, I think there is a problem. As hanibal said, we became consumers of everything, also love and respect.
    I'm single. the rates are correct? , I'm lucky ...I have'nt problem


    about this crisis.


    please be careful , if you are married then be happy...
    Yes, but you have to remember that our world is getting worst each decade.
    Although it's also getting worse in Turkey, I think the general picture is better than the rest of Europe as we have a strong traditional structure.





    I believe the main reason is the economical independence of women. In old times women used to swallow their husbands bad attitudes (betrayal, even violence). But now they find a lawyer and get divorced.





    What about the men? As they're feed, their clothes are washed and ironed at home, even if they find a mistress they tend to stay at home.
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  • What laws are there that discriminate against homosexuals, besides same sex marriage?

    What unjust laws are there? I heard something about adoption and home owning.What laws are there that discriminate against homosexuals, besides same sex marriage?
    There are adoption agencies that will not allow same-sex couples to adopt, it's true. I'm not sure about the home owning stuff. There are places that have (or had in the past) laws against sodomy and such. In the US, most states do not recognize same-sex couples meaning no tax deductions, no family benefits, and if a someone is in critical condition in a hospital a same-sex partner may not be permitted to see them if the hospital has ruled family only admittance. Finally, as stated above the US military has the ';don't ask don't tell'; policy. (I believe homosexuals are given a dishonorable discharge, but I'm not sure about this.)What laws are there that discriminate against homosexuals, besides same sex marriage?
    The remaining anti-homosexual sodomy laws have been invalidated by the 2003 U.S. Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas . It is not clear whether or how sodomy laws that apply to both homosexual and heterosexual sex are affected by Lawrence. The United States Supreme Court also implied that the age of consent must be the same for heterosexuals and homosexuals when it ordered the Kansas courts to review the constitutionality of the state's Romeo and Juliet Law.
    Well in the UK we have civil partnership which gives same sex couples the same rights as marriage, Some people still want marriage as an option though too, as marriage has bugger all to do with religion, which tends to be the reason cited.


    In the US discrimination can occur with inheritance taxes, if where only a spouse is allowed to inherit without the inheritance tax, power of attorney, visitation in hospital if only spouse and family are allowed the partner may not be allowed. You can get round these things with a lawyer, but its more money and effort than just getting married/civil partnered.
    This is a very broad question. It varies from country to country. In developed countries, the main ones are gay adoption and protection against housing and working discrimination. However, in some countries, sodomy is illegal and even worse than that, some countries if someone is found out to be gay (especially if they are a man) they will be killed.
    well here in the uk same sex marriage is legal, however it is not called marriage because marriage is defined as a man and woman being married. It is instead called a civil ceremony. (i think)
    DADT, lesbian insemenation, gay sperm and blood donation and some adoption laws in some states.
    I'm not sure! But I'd be interested in finding out
    um, none allowed in the army, but i can sort of understand that

    How to keep a marriage interesting and last?

    Im getting married on Oct. 10th and i am really excited but also getting really nervous. I know how most marriages end in divorce and i would like some advice on how to keep our marriage interesting and how to keep it from ending the way most marriages do.How to keep a marriage interesting and last?
    Why do some couples stay happy together for a lifetime, while others are in conflict almost from the beginning?





    Part of the answer is compatibility - making the initial choice of a partner with whom you share common values. Equally much, however, depends upon the choices each partner chooses to make during the relationship. Here are seven choices made by happy couples:





    1. Trust: Suspicion and jealousy are the death knell of any relationship. If the other is going to cheat or otherwise dishonor the relationship, suspicion and jealousy will not prevent it, and such a relationship is fatally flawed in any case. Unwarranted suspicion and jealousy create misery in a surprising number of relationships. If you want to live happily, trust your partner completely. If they dishonor your trust, deal with the situation then. In the meanwhile, your will have been happy.





    2. Open Communication: Tell the truth, tell the whole truth. If you didn't want to share your whole life with your partner, why are you together? If you make a mistake, admit it. If you have doubts, talk about them. Secrets and lies kill a relationship. With truth and openness anything is possible. Even if something is unforgivable, it is better to deal with it quickly.





    3. Honoring the other's point-of-view: People disagree, couples disagree. Understanding that the two partners in a couple remain individuals is crucial to a happy relationship. Why would you expect that you and your partner should agree on everything? Honor that one of you is a Republican and the other a Democrat. Honor that one of you is a vegetarian and the other loves a great steak.





    4. Self-Confidence: Co-dependence is another frequent cause of failed relationships. Happy couples know that they don't need each other. Each partner is a completely whole and valid individual who has entered into a voluntary partnership. Neither ';owns'; the other, nor ';can't live without'; the other. Each has their own interests and friends, as well as having mutual interests and friends.





    5. Generocity: Greed and selfishness kill relationships. True love is generous in spirit. Mostly, generosity is not about material things, although that is also important. To have a happy relationship, be generous of your time, your love, and your attention.





    6. Forgiveness: Resentments and thoughts of revenge and vengeance have no place in a happy relationship. Happy couples forgive each other completely for everything the other has ever done or failed to do - no exceptions.





    7. Gratitude: Happy couples are continuously grateful for each other. Every day there are a myriad of reasons to be grateful for your partner. Find those reasons each day, and thank your partner every day.How to keep a marriage interesting and last?
    I been married over 30 years and the most important thing to me is the attraction I still feel for my husband. If you can keep that feeling alive you can get through the bad times. Never go to bed mad at each other kiss and make up that part is the best. Never start taking your husband for granted he needs to feel appreciated and loved as you do. Don't try to change him and don't let him change you. The first year of marriage is the hardest to get through because you want things your way and he wants things his way. The biggest problem is as soon as you say I do everything changes like no more nights out together. He has you now he doesn't have to wine and dine you anymore. Change is hard and it can get pretty lonely after the honeymoon phase is over. If you start to feel like you made a mistake marrying him that's normal and it will pass. Congrads on your up coming marriage ..
    I was married for 28 incredibly happy years until my husband died from a brain tumour. What we felt kept us grounded and committed was our faith. There's an expression ';You invited God to the wedding......now invite him to the marriage';. Unfortunately, it's one of the few things that helps make a successful marriage and the one thing that most people simply refuse to acknowledge and try!
    I think it all starts with commitment. First commitment to one another and then later to the children. Other than that, the best advice I can give is to limit your social time apart, share all money and debts, and let one person handle paying the bills.





    Oh, and you don't have to have sex whenever he wants, but never, never use it as a weapon.





    Good luck and congrats.
    Keep it fun. Find things you enjoy doing together. Don't be afraid of time spent apart also. It's needed. Sex is important....don't neglect it. Make time for it. Sleep naked! :) Money is huge too. You guys need to agree on how your money is spent. Grow together...support each other's dreams and goals. Respect each other. Learn not to say something you can never take back.





    Good luck. If you work at it, you'll succeed. :)
    I have been married over 20yrs one of the things I have learned is never be afraid to say how you feel about things never hold it in you must be able to talk about both the good and the not so good in life and marriage
    as long as you marry someone you are truly in love with, it will always be interesting!





    communicate, trust, honesty, intimacy....very important!
    Learn how to pray and praise together...lift up Christ and He will lift up your marriage.
    Jesus should be very important to both of you. get into a solid, bible preaching church.

    Are there any good online colleges to get an MA in Marriage and Family Counseling?

    I know online schools are cheaper. I'm just worried about not getting a good job with that degree and any internship experience. Can you do internships through an online school?Are there any good online colleges to get an MA in Marriage and Family Counseling?
    You won't have the face to face experience with an on-line degree. I doubt you would be given an internship by any counseling service that was worth anything. I realize that on-line schools are cheaper. There's a reason, and you're discovered it early on. Good job!!!Are there any good online colleges to get an MA in Marriage and Family Counseling?
    Try





    http://www.earnmydegree.com/online-educa鈥?/a>





    But as to internship on the net . . bit of a contradiction isnt it - for an internship to work you have to have supervision in clinical practise and thats a bit hard if you never get into a client facing situation, but maybe someone else will prove me wrong. Good Luck with your studies

    How many years after marriage can you get a divorce?

    If you get married to a girl from a different country and take her to the United States, after how many years can you divorce her?How many years after marriage can you get a divorce?
    Your question is vague so it is hard to say. You can get a divorce at anytime of course.


    Now if you are talking about marrying someone for citizenship, which is illegal, it depends on their status before the marriage.





    For example The processing time for a marriage based Green Card varies depending on the Service Center where your petition has been filed. The process may take up to 12-18 months. After which you have a temporary marriage based green card you.





    The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) grants Conditional Permanent Residency for two years, after which you need to file for Removal of Conditions to get a permanent Green Card. The USCIS does a second check on the marriage after two years because marriage is a relatively easy route to get permanent residency in the U.S.





    So in this case after getting your green card the person would need to stay married for two years to receive a permanent green card.





    However none of this excludes you from being scrutinized by law enforcement and potentially being arrested if the marriage is for anything bu loveHow many years after marriage can you get a divorce?
    The minute you land in the US you can get a divorce. But of course you will probably be up for charges after that, unless you can prove that she was trying to rip you off and you found out en-route to the US. The marriage can be voided in that case.





    If you are marrying the girl so she can become a US citizen, then you are stuck with her. ALL divorces from overseas marriages will now be automatically scrutinized by the Department of Homeland Security to make sure that nothing illegal was done. If so, she will be forced from the US, and you will be charged with a felony.





    In general, she will get a green card sometime with the first 2 years, and be eligible to become a US citizen within 5 years. If you divorce her after 15 years and 3 or 4 children, they will probably ignore you. If you divorce her the day after she gets her green card or US citizenship, then be prepared for a world of hurt and 10 years in a Federal prison.





    In other words, it is no longer a game used to ';make citizenship'; through marriage. Marriage is now forever.
    LOL, ask Britney Spears.





    You can get divorced at any time. But did she become a citizen as a result of your marriage? Then you are entering a gray area. Consult a lawyer. And if you are marrying someone just as a favor to get them over here, don't do it. You really don't need that kind of hassle. it will end up costing you money and aggravation.
    HELLO??? you can divorce her as fast as you can get to a lawyer...move it pal! oh and it doesn't matter what country she is from.,...for you. She may get deported back to her home. Did you marry her to get her into the US???

    Do you think that marriage is a short term solution to a long term problem?

    In the society we live in, people with power(Money, Looks, Fame) are appreciated the most, and get a lot of attention and respect from others till they become addicted to their approval.





    so being accepted and approved by one person is not enough anymore. and I think celebrities prove this over and over.





    Your opinions?Do you think that marriage is a short term solution to a long term problem?
    I guess it depends what you wanna hear...sometimes answers you hear doesn't match what you believe in so the answer becomes unfavorable.





    We cannot compare our relationships with celebrities or the elites they usually are so independent they don't need each other. sometimes financial, not being famous, or not good looking makes us appreciate each other and dependent on one another b-cuz we don't fit one or all those descriptions.





    Marriage is not to be used as a solution! the whole act is suppose to become one with someone else combining one life with another... sharing it.Do you think that marriage is a short term solution to a long term problem?
    Are you saying that a high profile person cannot succeed in marriage because it only consists of one person giving them attention? That they crave the numerous admirers to give them the adulation that they need?





    Well, if they marry someone who is also a celebrity, which is often the case, the marriage is under the scrutiny of the public eye and that would cause pressures. They say there is a price to fame and that would be one of them. However, not all high profile marriages end in divorce.





    If the celebrity is looking for some kind of respite from the relentless attention that they receive, then they might consider marriage as a way out of it. But, if they continue to want that appreciation and respect from others, then, yes, I think it is a short term solution.





    To effectively address the issue from being a long term problem, they would have to seriously look at themselves and make the changes so that they aren't constantly craving attention from the masses.
    I don't think marriage is about getting acceptance and approval from one person. It is about building a partnership with which to go through life. It is a whole lot easier to face the inevevitable crises and suffering life brings if you have someone to share the burden with. Likewise, the joys and miracles of life are best when shared with another. Acceptance and approval may be a feature of a good marriage, but it is not the point of one.
    Total Quality Marriage, means that a couple is willing to look at all marriage components, and be committed to improve in every area.... Husbands and wives will work together, each taking responsibly for themselves, and the development of their relationship with the other....Problems in marriage often arise when participants have a mistaken notion as to what they can rightfully expect from marriage.
    Marriage is not and can`t be a ';solution'; to a problem, one gets married when there`s Love, and it`s forever.
    I don't knoe where you are coming from on this, marriage is a sacrament given by God, and should not be looked upon as a solution to anything.
    Youre details don't elucidate your original question
    More like a long term medicine for a short term ailment





    With plenty of side effects too!!
    So what is the long term problem you're ';hinting'; at?

    Why does government sanction Marriage in the 1st place. Why not put everyone under civil partnerships?

    Would that not end the whole debate. And keep religion out of it.Why does government sanction Marriage in the 1st place. Why not put everyone under civil partnerships?
    Because many people believe in the sanctity of marriage and that marriage is between a man and woman and that is the way God sanctified the union.





    There is no logical reason whatsoever that marriage should be considered valid other than between a man and woman.





    ';The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.'; Thomas JeffersonWhy does government sanction Marriage in the 1st place. Why not put everyone under civil partnerships?
    Why does government do it that way? I don't know other than to say it is a tradition. Would it end the debate for government to change the way it treats relationships and call everybody's relationship a civil partnership? ..... I don't know if that would END the debate. Throwing out a centuries-old tradition is not easily done and not without a lot of teeth-gnashing and temper-tantrum-throwing.





    Keep religion out of debate? Riiiiiiiiight. That'll NEVER happen.
    Marriage is a legal term as far as government is concerned, it is not about religion at all. In fact get married in a church ceremony with first getting a marriage license from you local county and then try to claim legal married status as far as filing your taxes, etc. It would work.
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  • How much would a marriage family therapist monthly sealery be on average?

    Im in highschool and im interested in becoming a MFT for my future career ,


    I would just like to know how much would be my income monthly and for a year


    and i would also appreciate some input on what kind of degrees would i need to be certified to be a MFT.





    thanks, :)How much would a marriage family therapist monthly sealery be on average?
    Keep in mind, in order to be at the level where you are actually providing therapy to people, you must obtain a masters degree in psychology and a PhD.





    I'd say once you do that, you will probably make roughly $70,000 a year - definitely more over time - but at least to start that's probably a good estimate. That comes out about $5833.00 a month.How much would a marriage family therapist monthly sealery be on average?
    Roughly $35,000 a year once established





    You would need a your bachelors in psychology at a minimum - you can ';treat'; with a bachelors aka a licensed professional counselor - but Masters is really where its at





    Now if you go for your PhD. you can make upwards of $70,000 or more - but that means another 6 more years approx. of schooling

    Do you believe that marriage is a union witnessed and blessed by god?

    should be exclusively between a man and a women?Do you believe that marriage is a union witnessed and blessed by god?
    so says the bibleDo you believe that marriage is a union witnessed and blessed by god?
    Marriage is a legal union between two people, which then gives certain legal rights to those people. You can get married at a courthouse, a chapel in Vegas etc. It does not have anything to do with god. I think all people should have the same legal rights. I also support a church's right not to perform a religious ceremony if they don't feel it fits within their teachings.
    Yes I believe it is witnessed by God, but that isn't the main reason I voted yes on prop 8. I voted yes because if you actually read the darn thing it keeps the rights of the priests and churches that don't believe i gay marriage from being sued. It also keeps ANY talk about marriage whether traditional or same sex out of the schools. Whether same sex marriage is ok or not is not a fact and should not be taught to children. I believe same sex relations is a sexual sin just as much a sex before marriage is. This however didn't influence my vote, my vote is based on the judicial implications of not passing the prop. Just as everyone is up in arms about the rights of gays, the rights of churches (Christian, Muslim, and Jewish all have it written in their religious books). They should not be forced to do anything they believe hurt themselves. Also prop 8 doesn't take away any domestic partnership rights for gay couples. Also with the supreme courts ruling standing the gay community is classified as a ';protected class'; which means they will have preference in court decisions that have nothing to do with them being gay.






    No, but that's fine if you believe that. Marriage is a civil action in terms of the legality. What blessings you receive within your church is your business, a non-legislative matter. All consenting adults should be free to marry whomever they choose. Even convicted felons can marry, for heaven's sake. And if your church doesn't want to marry same-sex couples, that's fine. Nobody's going to force them to. This a civil matter, not a religious one.
    If it is performed in a church, sure. How can you make that pronouncement about people who get married in city hall? Let the churches make their rules and the states make theirs, that's what our constitution says. If you don't like that you can always live in a place like Saudi Arabia. Why can't you people just let two people that love each other be happy together?
    Marriage is seen diferantly by all relegions, In this country and as a legal issue, a marriage shoud be a partnership between 2 people, if you do not think 2 guys should be married and do not consider them married, fine, but as a legal matter they should have the same rights as any other 2 adults that hook up.
    i think marriage that is recognized by the government should be between any 2 adults that want to get married. Everyone should have to get married by a state recognized court and then they can what whatever religious wedding ceremony they choose. Religion and state should be separate.
    If not only between man and woman, and if it is between any two why not any 4 or 6, since the reasoning for any two is the same as the reasoning for larger numbers, but then in the affairs of the heart, logic is out the window.
    no i'm not religious


    and i'm not a jerk, so i support equal rights for everyone reguardless of sexual orientation. people who disagree are assholes.
    I'm not a religious person...so marriage should be the domain of the church, and I will respect their decision.


    The government should only grant a legal partnership to any two adults that want it
    No. It is a legal relationship sanctioned by the state, and thus should be open to any adult citizens to marry the consenting adult partner of their choice.
    Yes. God ordained marriage at the beginning of the human race.
    Sounds like that is a judgment for God, in other words that's above my pay grade.








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    No... I think it's a spiritual union between two people committed to each other through both the good and bad times in life.
    Hardly; marriage existed long before the Judeo-Christian god was even invented.
    Yes I do, but I don't believe God hates gay people just because somebody wrote that he did in Leviticus.
    No...You can't help who you love %26amp; God knows that!
    Nah, I think everyone should have the opportunity to be equally miserable. :)
    This section is elections....perhaps you best pop over to the Family %26amp; Relationships section eh?
    No. It should be between any two people who love each other.
    Definitely not.
    IF it was a union blessed by god, how would atheist get married?
    yes marriage ie blessed by god..
    Yes and Yes.
    Yes it should and I approve this message
    god isnt real so ,no.
    Yes and yes. The ';state'; never has any business issuing ';marriage licenses'; in the first place. It was all to get money, a tax on religion. Gay marriage is an oxymoron.





    Felicia, so you would be okay with me marrying my sister right? We're consenting adults, we love each other...
    Yes. Anything else is sexual perversion.
    Yes I do.
    HELLZ YAH
    Yes

    I am looking for marriage records with in the last 10 years i do not have to pay for suggestions?

    Since ';Mother's maiden name?'; is a common question in banks and credit cards, and bride's maiden name is on marriage records, and it it no one's business if someone gets married in June and delivers an 8-pound baby in October, almost all free on-line marriage records less than 80 years old have been taken off the Internet. They are much stricter about giving out paper copies at the county clerk's office, too, for the same reasons.





    IF you know the date within a week or two AND live near the county, you can look through the ';vital records'; section of the local newspaper on microfilm at the county library, for free; but note there are two big If's there.





    Sorry; some Q have no good answers.

    Marriage????????

    Hi, I am 31 and live in India. I am planning to move to USA/ UK or any other developed country after marriage and for that I am searching for a nice match.





    My question is :----- Is the marriage, which is registered under Indian Law, acceptable in UK / USA or we have to register under UK /USA Laws? What is the procedure for that, any website address?





    I would like to know about the laws prevelant in USA/ UK about marriage. I live in India do I have to registered under Indian Law will it be acceptable in USA/ UK .Or we have to register under USA/ UK Laws for marriage to be authorized.Marriage????????
    As far as I know, you just show up with your wedding certificate and you're OK. You don't register anywhere.Marriage????????
    . Ask this Question at both the India AND UK embassy.

    MARRIAGE???????

    SO ME AND MY FIANCE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR LIKE 7 YEARS NOW,WE HAVE TWO KIDS, LIVE TOGETHERF OR 3 YEARS,ARGUE OVER STUPID ****, BUT WE DO LOVE EACH OTHER..MY FAMILY HATES HIM FOR GOD KNOWS WHAT...SHOULD I MARRY HIM IN NOVEMBER???MARRIAGE???????
    Laughing . . . You sound like me. DONT DO IT IF YOU ARE DOING FOR YOUR KIDS. Or, if you are trying to prove everyone else wrong. Otherwise one day you will get to a point after all the ';stupid ****'; and wonder what in the he** did I get married for. After the first child, his wanting to do right by you and your child should have kicked in. I went through the same thing. If you get married it should be because you both are READY TO FULLY COMMIT.MARRIAGE???????
    No..why screw up a messed up situation?
    That's almost as ridiculous and Tom and Katie going through pre-marital counseling AFTER they have a kid together. Hello?
    This is your decision not your family's. If you love him and think that you can spend the rest of your life with him, go ahead and marry him. Your family will come to accept it eventually.
    match made in heaven
    Why bother? I think 7 years is the rule for common-law marraige. You are probably already married, but just don't know about it. Congratulations!
    Let's see..... knocks you up twice without bothering to marry you. I can't imagine your family not liking him. Odd.....





    If you love him and vice versa, go ahead and get married and make the kid thing more legitimate.
    Nah make it October.
    Marry him, if you think its right. Our opinion should matter the least to you. Everyone argues, its normal. But, if you truley love each other and want to make your relationship recognized by the legal system (marriage). Than go for it.
    After 7 years and 2 kids time to get married ,if you love each other...
    All couples argue every now and then. If your still in love wih him, marry him. But if something is nagging at you follow yout gut istincts. Good luck.

    I am looking for marriage records with in the last 10 years i do not have to pay for suggestions?

    Since ';Mother's maiden name?'; is a common question in banks and credit cards, and bride's maiden name is on marriage records, and it it no one's business if someone gets married in June and delivers an 8-pound baby in October, almost all free on-line marriage records less than 80 years old have been taken off the Internet. They are much stricter about giving out paper copies at the county clerk's office, too, for the same reasons.





    IF you know the date within a week or two AND live near the county, you can look through the ';vital records'; section of the local newspaper on microfilm at the county library, for free; but note there are two big If's there.





    Sorry; some Q have no good answers.
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  • Is my husbands long term mistress a threat to my 15yr marriage?

    My husband of 15yrs %26amp; I separated with no talk of divorce or reconcile. I still have hope for my husband %26amp; that we will raise our 4kids together.





    We have been separated over a year and he has been with mistress over 2yrs. Is this woman a threat to my 15 marriage? Would a husband sacrifice his family for the other woman?Is my husbands long term mistress a threat to my 15yr marriage?
    Your husband is the threat to your marriage, not any other woman.





    If he's still seeing her, then obviously he has no interest in reconciling with you.Is my husbands long term mistress a threat to my 15yr marriage?
    What gave you the first clue? If your husband has been gone for over a year and has had a mistress for over 2 years, there is not a threat to your marriage - your marriage is OVER! You are hanging on to hope that has no reason to exist. He hasn't divorced because it would cost him more financially, especially for the cost pf the divorce itself, than he is paying now. (I assume he IS paying you some kind of child support now???) Your husband has made his choice,now it's your turn. You need to move on %26amp; make a new life for yourself. Divorce him, get some legal protection for you %26amp; your children before he decides to have children with this other woman - or he simply decides to abandon you completely without support. Have you thought about what kind of example you are setting for your children? Do you want them to believe it's acceptable to be treated this way?
    . .This woman is not a mistress, she is the other wife. You husband is buttering both sides of his bread. He is a pig and has been disrespecting you for years. Yes ,men have been sacrificing their families since the beginning of time. This was done to me in a similar way and I was devastated for many years and it is hard to recover from it, especially when you have children. My belief is that he doesn't want to talk about the divorce because of child and spousal support. As long as he can keep you hoping he will play it out as long as he can. I hate to be so brutal but this is how I see it. You need to respect yourself and your kids and move on. Would you want your daughter to go through this because of a man that has been cheating on her , I think not. Move on sweetie, be happy with your kids, start a new life , you deserve it.
    You and your husband have been separated for over a year, Is she a threat to your Marriage, I think your HUSBAND is a threat to your marriage, HE is with this woman, if is not her it will be someone else! He is not showing YOU are YOUR Children any Respect, and being with the woman for 2 years, and married to you, He does not respect you are HIS children, I'm really sorry for you,because you still must love him, if you have not filed for divorce yet,, maybe you need counseling, and talk to someone that you can trust, to give you some strength and guidence
    It does seem to lean towards that direction...





    But have you tried talking to him? I don't want to get your hopes up, but perhaps he's waiting for you to talk to him about what actions to take next. But if your husband has no problem being separated from you and from the kids for a year already, then I would say your best bet is to fight for child support.
    It seems he has already sacrificed his family for this woman. Do you really want to raise your children in this type of unhealthy relationship? Divorce your husband. Would you want your children to stay with a cheater? Move on with your life. Don't wait around for him to become level headed. Your letting him win anyway by letting him have everything still.
    Well duh....??? look where he is. Why are you holding on to hope when he's with and where he wants to be. Listen honey...15 years is massive history with another. However, at the moment he has no regards or thoughts to you or the kids. If so, he'd be working out the family life he committed to 15 years ago. He knows you're sitting by the wayside waiting...therefore he's going to enjoy doing what he's doing. If by chance it fizzles out or blows up he knows who's sitting around waiting for him.





    You should value yourself and worth far more than what you're settling for. If you have daughters...what are you teaching them by your actions and non-actions?
    This woman is no threat, she is a fact. She already did the damage together with your husband. Your marriage ended the first day your husband cheated on you.





    You are being a drama queen. The fact that he fell in love with some one else does not make him an unfit father. There are millions of divorced men who still care and help raise their children.
    The mistress herself isn't the threat to your marriage, your husband's behaviour is.


    You've separated and he's moved on with his life (he won't be seeing it as a sacrifice either!) Time to move on with yours too and accept its over, sorry.
    Nope, she's no longer a threat to your marriage. YOU are a threat to her relationship with your (soon to be ex) husband. Sounds like he already sacrificed you and the kids for her. Get a good lawyer.
    Men are men - they'll screw anybody any time - you're being played





    It's divorce time - also, once a cheater always a cheater
    After a year long separation because your husband had an affair, it seems clear to me that your husband has sacrificed his family for the woman he was having an affair with. I am truly sorry that you are going through this...
    Are you for real? He has left you already for his mistress. Just having a paper that says your married is not enough to keep it going. I seriously suggest counseling.
    I can't imagine how you would pine away for a man who lives with another woman. Please learn how to respect yourself.





    Your marriage is over, but he will always be father to your children.
    He is already looking at the marriage as over and has moved on, but I hope he is going to be there for the kids
    She already has him. Divorce him and take him for everything.
    Yes but it will take time.
    It seems to me she already has him. I'd say yes she's a threat.
    yeah obviously i can't believe you actually want to stay with him while he has been cheating on you for 2 years
    YES!!!!!
    when she is done with him you will get him back ! 5 or 6 years from now !
    OMG!!!! you poor thing..im so sorry you dont respect yourself...girl move on...he will do the same to her..dont you worry..
    Of course she is. Is your brain on autopilot or what?
    yes
    He'll come back. Hang in there, sweetie!

    How to survive ur marriage after birth?

    They say that the man forgets the woman after she gives birth to his baby. What r ur opinions about this? And how to survive it?How to survive ur marriage after birth?
    Only true with boys, not men. My husband loves me more than ever. If you are truly in love, nothing will come between you and him. God bless.How to survive ur marriage after birth?
    First of all Laura I'm glad you got your man hating lesbianism out of your system! Secondly how about continuing to make your relationship with your man be important enough to keep you interested! People need to realize that children grow up and leave!


    The reason you have a child is because of the intimacy you shared to create it! Be a multitask-er and keep things the way they are!Just because Laura is Ok with using a turkey baster to have kids doesn't mean everyone should have to!
    that's doesn't sound accurate at all, it may be true when it comes to teen boys who aren't mentally ready to be fathers, but when you marry the right man and your husband loves you the gift of the life is the best thing you can share together its a part of both of you. and the love you have grows stronger
    i think it all depends on the man, my boyfriend and i just had a baby sept 17th and we couldnt be closer or more in love. which is the opposite of how we thought it would be, since we never planned for a child or ever wanted any. now we are both more in love with our son and each other than ever!


    and in my opinion if your man forgets you after you give birth to his child, leave him.
    If anything, it is the guy who feels left out and unloved. The woman is the primary care taker when the child is born.


    People are mirrors to one another. You love your husband, give him attention and treat him with kindness and he will treat you the same in return.
    It's more like things get so busy that there is less time period. It's not about forgetting. The only way to survive is to get the kids older and more self-sufficient. We didn't get more time until all the kids went to school.
    I do not understand why this would happen. It did not when I gave birth. The couple still has to work on the marriage. The baby is an addition to the family but they have to keep the marriage alive also.
    Not always true, i had a baby in september 12th. He has never found me more attractive than to know that even if our marriage fails, he will always have a part of me with him.
    Not to be negative, but men will NEVER tell you how they REALLY feel about stretch marks, saggy boobs post partum, fat, and watching the baby come out.





    Sorry, but that is the TRUTH!
    True love see's no negative. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder..
    Some bitter chick told you that. It's not true. A lot of husband enjoy having a family and are proud of their wife for having their child.
    Its not always true , your situation is what need to be addressed!
    Dont worry it wont take im long he will soon be back sniffinn round you
    Who says that?
    Just love the baby. You are baby's god and hero. that baby loves you more than any man ever could. Do not worry about the man. They are idiots. The love you need is in the baby.

    Would you get rid of your wedding dress after leaving abusive marriage?

    I don't want my daughter to wear it because I think it would be bad luck. It was a miserable 14 years of hell with him. I don't want it because I don't want to be reminded of my wedding or marriage with him. I have no sentimental attachment to it either. Should I just give it to a resale shop or throw it away. It is a gorgeous sparkly beautiful dress. Or do you think I'd be giving bad karma to a stranger?Would you get rid of your wedding dress after leaving abusive marriage?
    hi sweetheart we have something in common ....a abusive marriage i was in that one for 22years and well and truley out of it now and divorced ....woohoo !!i got rid of my wedding ring engagement and erternity rings as i did not want to see them or keep them as like you they were not good reminders of what i'd been through ,and they could bring someone together and have a great marriage ....its not the rings that caused the abuse it was that slimball i so stupidly married that caused all the hurt and pain ,so as regards to youre wedding dress think about it this way it could make a future bride a very happy lady on her wedding day ,and it wouldnt be the dress that caused the hurt ....if it had been the dresses fault you would have got rid of it years ago unfortunatley it was the men we decided to marry that caused all our hurt and unhappiness so stop worrying ,and as for youre daughter when her day comes to get married you and her will be able to looking for a beautiful dress for her ...what a nice thought for the future for you both .....take care and dont worry xxWould you get rid of your wedding dress after leaving abusive marriage?
    the dress itself - is simply the coming together of material, sparkley stuff and a sewing machine. It is a thing. You have been through enough trauma and abuse. Please don't turn yourself inside out worrying that all the hell you've been through will transfer to whoever buys it in a charity shop.





    If you want to - throw it away. It will be recycled. Turned into something new and beautiful





    get rid of the dress - don't let him and the memory of him continue to control you












    If you want to answer bad karma with good karma, donate it to Brides Against Breast Cancer. They take donations of new and used wedding dresses that they then resell in gown sales held all over the country and all of the proceeds benefit the Making Memories foundation (kind of like Make a Wish but for people with breast cancer). It is a wonderful organization and you could feel good knowing the sale of your gown would be used for a very worthwhile cause!
    I actually have a girlfriend who had a ';burn the dress'; party to celebrate


    her engagement to her fiance once her divorce was final. It was a great


    party! Her old wedding dress was soaked in lighter fluid and put in


    a large tub and burned-then we all had a great cookout!


    Don't pass it on-get rid of it.


    P.S. She is happily married today- 6 years after her ';burn the dress


    party';.
    I wouldn't keep it in the family but I wouldn't destroy it unless it will make you feel better. Would it be a kind of catharsis for you to burn it or rip it to shreds? If so then by all means...burn, baby, burn. If that won't help you feel better then give it to charity( bad luck from a dress will not make an abuser) so someone else can have a beautiful wedding day. You'll make the right decision...Many blessings and congratulations on your weight loss ( a whole jerk, huh ;)
    I do believe in Karma -- but people have Karma, clothes don't. The bad is in your Ex, not your dress. If you don't like it, I'd suggest you get rid of it whatever way you want. If you donate it, you're not going to 'jinx' the next woman married in it (unless she marries your Ex...just a joke).





    Personally, I'd donate it. I think the bad Karma follows the person (as in, your Ex-husband) not the dress.





    Good luck!
    I still have mine and it still had the dirt and hay one it (reception on our ranch and i had to feed the horses LOL) Mine is in a box, squished, i planned on burning it in one of our bonfires...thanks for the reminder i will have to get that done.


    Put it away for a while and then decide what you want to do with it...I know burning mine will make my mother cry, she spent a fortune on the thing. My sister did use my tiara and veil, she has a wonderful marriage hasnt cursed it.
    Sell it and with the money buy something for your daughter maybe as a present for when she gets married.Try selling it on ebay or you could try those resale shops.You wont be giving bad karma to anyone. Some marraiges work some don't but it's nothing to do with what dress your wore on your wedding day
    Yes. There is no need to hold on to that reminder of someone who has hurt you so much. I'm so sorry to hear that you had to go through something so painful, but it does sound like you are very strong. I remember seeing some craigslists postings from an artist who wanted women's wedding gowns...so that he/she could destroy them...and make them into some kind of art. I'm thinking about doing that with mine...well at least rip it to shreds.haha
    yes burn the dress
    Just bin it.....if its causing you nothing but grief looking at it and you don't want someone else to have it then lob it!
    YES!
    I would burn it!
    yeah i would get rid of it.. not to anyone in the family.. i dont think u would give bad karma to someone else